Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

[beandreams@friendhole.social]

@jalefkowit Now if only Canada would also ban products made with forced-labour domestically, we'd be getting somewhere

The vast hidden workforce of Canada’s prisons | Broadview Magazine

Inmates earn less than $7 a day. Is their labour rehabilitation or exploitation?

Broadview Magazine (broadview.org)

[htpcnz@mastodon.social]

@jalefkowit but its only China who make Uyghurs to work in forced labour camps... So why would that ever affect USA assembled cars... The leader of the "free" world , bastion of "democracy" who keeps spreads it to resource rich nations through B52s, could never ever ever do such atrocious barbaric things. /S

[shwell@mastodon.au]

@jalefkowit It seems Apple is exempt.

[ehproque@neopaquita.es]

@jalefkowit I assumed, I wondered why automotive specifically

[nyovaya@transfem.social]

@jalefkowit@vmst.io Whats the definition of forced labour? Does wagework also count as forced labour?

[toriver@mas.to]

@nyovaya @jalefkowit You can leave a regular job so no.

[hellomiakoda@pdx.social]

@jalefkowit *inhales sharply through clenched teeth*

[nyovaya@transfem.social]

@jalefkowit@vmst.io @toriver@mas.to And live on the street? Thats forced labour because you have to do it or you will die.

[bencotterill@mastodon.social]

@jalefkowit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHz2Hmq7soo&feature=youtu.be

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@jalefkowit the U.S. constitution does not ban slavery

*the U.S. constitution does not ban slavery*

[toriver@mas.to]

@nyovaya @jalefkowit No, you can do something else like live off the land like people did for centuries before «jobs» were a thing. Or do a different job. Are you intentionally trying to distort the meaning of forced labor to try and make it sound less bad than it is?

[nyovaya@transfem.social]

@jalefkowit@vmst.io @toriver@mas.to Both kinds of forced labour are bad. Live off the land, and how do you pay your bills? Yes you could sell what you harvested but not everyone can become a peasant both out of economical reasons as well as of what their abilities are. And I dont think their doctors, internet or electricity provider would like to receive fruits or vegetables as a payment. You are still really dependend on the economy which is using workers like peasents as their slaves and in return they get the bare minimum to live. This is still no better than a wageworker.

[sanatkafasi@mastodon.com.tr]

@jalefkowit I thought the slavery was banned long time ago but apperently you can use prisoned people as worker with ridicolous wage in USA. that's explain why the USA have prisoned citizens far more than every other country..

[clickhere@mastodon.ie]

@jalefkowit I'm sure there are people in the USA who would be only too happy to get rid of the 13th amendment to their constitution.

[kimlockhartga@beige.party]

@jalefkowit thank you for explaining. I could not figure it out.

[baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us]

@jalefkowit So does Canada not import US chicken, given the likes of Cargill use forced labor in production?

[metalfabs@mastodon.social]

@BalooUriza @jalefkowit Canada does not import USA chicken as far as I know, but that's more so due to "supply management", a combination of government subsidy for farmers and farmers' lobby groups fighting for protectionism. A wild thing about Canadian politics is that speaking about "the milk lobby" will nuke your chances of election.

[davidm_yeg@beige.party]

@jalefkowit @beandreams

“Prisoners also work to help cover the cost of their incarceration.” says this article about Ontario prisons. Everything about that sentence is wrong (morally).

[disorderlyf@todon.eu]

@ariarhythmic @jalefkowit On paper, it bans chattel slavery. In effect, it requires extra steps and government involvement.

[disorderlyf@todon.eu]

@jalefkowit I meam, I would love to see every country ban imports of products created with forced labour. I don't think Canada will ever enforce it for the States or China. The countermeasures those countries could take would destroy Canada's economy overnight. It's why responses to tariffs have been so muted.