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  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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      Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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      In case you were wondering, the specific problem here is the use of prison labor.

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      OTTAWA — Human rights lawyers are calling on Ottawa to ban American imports that stem from forced labour linked to automotive firms using prisoner work in Alabama, under the same law meant to block products made through exploitative practices in China. “Forced or coercive labour can exist anywhere when people lack real choice protection or […]

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      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

        In case you were wondering, the specific problem here is the use of prison labor.

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        Lawyers urge federal ban on U.S. forced labour imports, cars built by prisoners

        OTTAWA — Human rights lawyers are calling on Ottawa to ban American imports that stem from forced labour linked to automotive firms using prisoner work in Alabama, under the same law meant to block products made through exploitative practices in China. “Forced or coercive labour can exist anywhere when people lack real choice protection or […]

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        @jalefkowit Now if only Canada would also ban products made with forced-labour domestically, we'd be getting somewhere

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        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

          Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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          Rules meant to police Chinese imports could - and should - apply to U.S. manufacturing, one Canadian group is arguing.

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          @jalefkowit but its only China who make Uyghurs to work in forced labour camps... So why would that ever affect USA assembled cars... The leader of the "free" world , bastion of "democracy" who keeps spreads it to resource rich nations through B52s, could never ever ever do such atrocious barbaric things. /S

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          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

            Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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            Rules meant to police Chinese imports could - and should - apply to U.S. manufacturing, one Canadian group is arguing.

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            @jalefkowit It seems Apple is exempt.

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              In case you were wondering, the specific problem here is the use of prison labor.

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              Lawyers urge federal ban on U.S. forced labour imports, cars built by prisoners

              OTTAWA — Human rights lawyers are calling on Ottawa to ban American imports that stem from forced labour linked to automotive firms using prisoner work in Alabama, under the same law meant to block products made through exploitative practices in China. “Forced or coercive labour can exist anywhere when people lack real choice protection or […]

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              @jalefkowit I assumed, I wondered why automotive specifically

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                @jalefkowit@vmst.io Whats the definition of forced labour? Does wagework also count as forced labour?

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                  @jalefkowit@vmst.io Whats the definition of forced labour? Does wagework also count as forced labour?

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                  @nyovaya @jalefkowit You can leave a regular job so no.

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                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                    Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                    @jalefkowit *inhales sharply through clenched teeth*

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                    • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                      @nyovaya @jalefkowit You can leave a regular job so no.

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                      @jalefkowit@vmst.io @toriver@mas.to And live on the street? Thats forced labour because you have to do it or you will die.

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                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                        Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                        @jalefkowit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHz2Hmq7soo&feature=youtu.be

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                        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                          Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                          @jalefkowit the U.S. constitution does not ban slavery

                          *the U.S. constitution does not ban slavery*

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                            @jalefkowit@vmst.io @toriver@mas.to And live on the street? Thats forced labour because you have to do it or you will die.

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                            @nyovaya @jalefkowit No, you can do something else like live off the land like people did for centuries before «jobs» were a thing. Or do a different job. Are you intentionally trying to distort the meaning of forced labor to try and make it sound less bad than it is?

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                              @nyovaya @jalefkowit No, you can do something else like live off the land like people did for centuries before «jobs» were a thing. Or do a different job. Are you intentionally trying to distort the meaning of forced labor to try and make it sound less bad than it is?

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                              @jalefkowit@vmst.io @toriver@mas.to Both kinds of forced labour are bad. Live off the land, and how do you pay your bills? Yes you could sell what you harvested but not everyone can become a peasant both out of economical reasons as well as of what their abilities are. And I dont think their doctors, internet or electricity provider would like to receive fruits or vegetables as a payment. You are still really dependend on the economy which is using workers like peasents as their slaves and in return they get the bare minimum to live. This is still no better than a wageworker.

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                              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                                @jalefkowit I thought the slavery was banned long time ago but apperently you can use prisoned people as worker with ridicolous wage in USA. that's explain why the USA have prisoned citizens far more than every other country..

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                                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                  In case you were wondering, the specific problem here is the use of prison labor.

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                                  OTTAWA — Human rights lawyers are calling on Ottawa to ban American imports that stem from forced labour linked to automotive firms using prisoner work in Alabama, under the same law meant to block products made through exploitative practices in China. “Forced or coercive labour can exist anywhere when people lack real choice protection or […]

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                                  @jalefkowit I'm sure there are people in the USA who would be only too happy to get rid of the 13th amendment to their constitution.

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                                    In case you were wondering, the specific problem here is the use of prison labor.

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                                    OTTAWA — Human rights lawyers are calling on Ottawa to ban American imports that stem from forced labour linked to automotive firms using prisoner work in Alabama, under the same law meant to block products made through exploitative practices in China. “Forced or coercive labour can exist anywhere when people lack real choice protection or […]

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                                    @jalefkowit thank you for explaining. I could not figure it out.

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                                      Why would that be a problem for U.S. car manufa—ohhhhh

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                                      Rules meant to police Chinese imports could - and should - apply to U.S. manufacturing, one Canadian group is arguing.

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                                      @jalefkowit So does Canada not import US chicken, given the likes of Cargill use forced labor in production?

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                                        @jalefkowit So does Canada not import US chicken, given the likes of Cargill use forced labor in production?

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                                        @BalooUriza @jalefkowit Canada does not import USA chicken as far as I know, but that's more so due to "supply management", a combination of government subsidy for farmers and farmers' lobby groups fighting for protectionism. A wild thing about Canadian politics is that speaking about "the milk lobby" will nuke your chances of election.

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                                          @jalefkowit Now if only Canada would also ban products made with forced-labour domestically, we'd be getting somewhere

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                                          @jalefkowit @beandreams

                                          “Prisoners also work to help cover the cost of their incarceration.” says this article about Ontario prisons. Everything about that sentence is wrong (morally).

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