Great video.
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Great video. Watch it!
(This is Prof. Ada Palmer)
@wackJackle who is she, this scholar?
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Who is the speaker? Is there more of this interview available?
@jamesbritt This is Prof. Ada Palmer. I hope that helps to find the interview
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@wackJackle Who is the scholar?
@GinevraCat This is Prof. Ada Palmer
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@wackJackle who is she, this scholar?
@bituur_esztreym This is Prof. Ada Palmer
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@bituur_esztreym This is Prof. Ada Palmer
@wackJackle thanks a lot!
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Wie heisst sie?
@PARTEIBonze Prof. Ada Palmer
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@wackJackle thanks a lot!
@bituur_esztreym @wackJackle Thanks! So Prof. Ada Palmer web site: https://www.adapalmer.com/ + the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Palmer
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@PARTEIBonze Prof. Ada Palmer
@wackJackle @bituur_esztreym @PARTEIBonze And the video #format is on line at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynetSWYp4c (4'43'')
And link is given for the the complete video (the above is an extract): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIhVfGbREA
Title: The Library of Alexandria isn’t where most ancient books were lost
Interview by Dwarkesh Patel.
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@jamesbritt This is Prof. Ada Palmer. I hope that helps to find the interview
Thanks! I thought that might be her. She wrote Inventing the Renaissance. She's very interesting.
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Thanks! I thought that might be her. She wrote Inventing the Renaissance. She's very interesting.
@jamesbritt First time I've heard about her but I will look for more input.
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@GinevraCat This is Prof. Ada Palmer
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Great video. Watch it!
(This is Prof. Ada Palmer)
@wackJackle except you can't put LLMs on the same line. It's no "tech revolution".
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@wackJackle except you can't put LLMs on the same line. It's no "tech revolution".
@ezrine She doesn't say it. Listen to what she has to say again.
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Great video. Watch it!
(This is Prof. Ada Palmer)
@wackJackle Loving the part about Gutenberg going bankrupt and all the following ones.
Less of a fan of the conclusion* (but does she knows how to tell a story ! I was sucked right in, wow)
*Because I don't think its very interesting to argue on the unity of change on some technique branch (computers/the press) while it's always a continuum anyway so like, in the end, I felt "duh all this for that". But it was a nice journey anyway.
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@ezrine She doesn't say it. Listen to what she has to say again.
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@wackJackle Loving the part about Gutenberg going bankrupt and all the following ones.
Less of a fan of the conclusion* (but does she knows how to tell a story ! I was sucked right in, wow)
*Because I don't think its very interesting to argue on the unity of change on some technique branch (computers/the press) while it's always a continuum anyway so like, in the end, I felt "duh all this for that". But it was a nice journey anyway.
@otyugh You don't have to agree with someone has to say about a topic. You can still learn something about it.
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Great video. Watch it!
(This is Prof. Ada Palmer)
@wackJackle Thanks for sharing this! Her take on the successive tech revolutions about information is quite interesting.
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But I find it difficult to consider the output of LLMs/Gen AI as "information". I'd rather word it as "data".For it to be considered as "information", I would expect these technologies to provide "new facts", which they can't (or hallucinate, in which case they are false information).
Therefore I don't see how this serves the information history.
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Thanks! I thought that might be her. She wrote Inventing the Renaissance. She's very interesting.
@jamesbritt @wackJackle that's an awesome book.
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@otyugh You don't have to agree with someone has to say about a topic. You can still learn something about it.
@wackJackle Totally, that's why I also said I loved the part I loved ! (and learned !)
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@wackJackle Thanks for sharing this! Her take on the successive tech revolutions about information is quite interesting.
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But I find it difficult to consider the output of LLMs/Gen AI as "information". I'd rather word it as "data".For it to be considered as "information", I would expect these technologies to provide "new facts", which they can't (or hallucinate, in which case they are false information).
Therefore I don't see how this serves the information history.
</my 2cts>@birozularutti @wackJackle If you read up on distinctions between data, information, knowledge and wisdom you'll find no requirement for information to be true, accurate or novel.
Its character is informing, that is communicating something meaningful. Misinformation and disinformation are forms of information often even more amenable to communication ("a lie gets halfway round the world before the truth gets its boots on").
