Great video.

[thierry_dhulster@mastodon.social]

@wackJackle This reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions

[bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org]

@wackJackle who is she, this scholar?

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@jamesbritt This is Prof. Ada Palmer. I hope that helps to find the interview

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@GinevraCat This is Prof. Ada Palmer

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@bituur_esztreym This is Prof. Ada Palmer

[bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org]

@wackJackle thanks a lot!

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@PARTEIBonze Prof. Ada Palmer

[thierrystoehr@framapiaf.org]

@bituur_esztreym @wackJackle Thanks! So Prof. Ada Palmer web site: https://www.adapalmer.com/ + the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Palmer

[thierrystoehr@framapiaf.org]

@wackJackle @bituur_esztreym @PARTEIBonze And the video #format is on line at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynetSWYp4c (4'43'')
And link is given for the the complete video (the above is an extract): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIhVfGbREA
Title: The Library of Alexandria isn’t where most ancient books were lost
Interview by Dwarkesh Patel.
Happy watching, and thanks!

[jamesbritt@mastodon.social]

@wackJackle

Thanks! I thought that might be her. She wrote Inventing the Renaissance. She's very interesting.

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@jamesbritt First time I've heard about her but I will look for more input.

[ginevracat@toot.community]

@wackJackle

[ezrine@piaille.fr]

@wackJackle except you can't put LLMs on the same line. It's no "tech revolution".

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@ezrine She doesn't say it. Listen to what she has to say again.

[otyugh@pouet.chapril.org]

@wackJackle Loving the part about Gutenberg going bankrupt and all the following ones.

Less of a fan of the conclusion* (but does she knows how to tell a story ! I was sucked right in, wow)

*Because I don't think its very interesting to argue on the unity of change on some technique branch (computers/the press) while it's always a continuum anyway so like, in the end, I felt "duh all this for that". But it was a nice journey anyway.

[ezrine@piaille.fr]

@wackJackle mm

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@otyugh You don't have to agree with someone has to say about a topic. You can still learn something about it.

[birozularutti@piaille.fr]

@wackJackle Thanks for sharing this! Her take on the successive tech revolutions about information is quite interesting.

<my 2cts>
But I find it difficult to consider the output of LLMs/Gen AI as "information". I'd rather word it as "data".

For it to be considered as "information", I would expect these technologies to provide "new facts", which they can't (or hallucinate, in which case they are false information).

Therefore I don't see how this serves the information history.
</my 2cts>

[susan_calvin@mastodon.social]

@jamesbritt @wackJackle that's an awesome book.

[otyugh@pouet.chapril.org]

@wackJackle Totally, that's why I also said I loved the part I loved ! (and learned !)