ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

[heafnerj@mstdn.social]

@docpop One problem with contemporary physics textbooks is that authors rarely, if ever, read and check the original sources by Einstein and others and proceed to perpetuate misconceptions that we as faculty must repeatedly engage with in our classrooms. It wastes our time and confuses students. This has been a thing long before arXiv or AI so I'm quite sympathetic.

[heafnerj@mstdn.social]

@docpop Also, isn't this rather a high school level expectation?

[adriano@lile.cl]

@docpop @FediThing Well, his point is *slightly* more nuanced in that he's arguing "What if *I* checked the citations I added, but this other guy I co-author with did not on his part of the paper? Why am I responsible?"

To which I reply "sucks to be you, my guy."

[oceane@gotosocial.social]

@docpop Power move LMAO

[csilverman@mastodon.social]

@EdCates @docpop Neat, I didn't know about that. Thanks.

[adriano@lile.cl]

@docpop @FediThing
To be clear, this is the same kind of argument as "What if I need to shout the N-word to save a baby from being crushed by a bus?", and the like.

[em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social]

@docpop I thought that’s why you cited them
Or have I read the memo wrong
(Completely sarcastic here )

[ftranschel@norden.social]

@heafnerj @docpop As in "only highschoolers can reasonably be expected to do this"?

(scnr)

[ftranschel@norden.social]

@csilverman @docpop It's almost like broken incentives lead to unintended consequences...

[ftranschel@norden.social]

@docpop I made the mistake of briefly looking at his X posts.

I'm... I'm just going to say I will not comment on it. My god, no.

[sassinake@mastodon.social]

@clew @FediThing @docpop

or analysis. Or reading. Or brains.

[mjc0961@mastodon.social]

@csilverman Incredibly rare Community Notes W

[happycrow13@mastodon.social]

@docpop Local idiot shocked to learn you should understand the subject you're telling other people about

[mrak@solarsystem.social]

@docpop You expect to get a reasonable response to post on X ???

[gustodon@mas.to]

@docpop James Miller took apart his Rubik's Cube to solve it.

[jackeric@beige.party]

@FediThing @docpop the chap's a PhD

[marta@corteximplant.com]

@docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please

I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.

I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...

[a_cubed@mastodon.social]

@docpop @EthicalProfessor
They're not egen demanding thauch. Thye just require that authors check the citations are to actual papers, mot just imagined plausible-looking lists.

[jamesmarshall@sfba.social]

@docpop from his profile, Miller has a PhD from U. Chicago, a JD from Stanford, and is a professor at Smith College. I think this reflects badly on every one of those-- what is research from these places actually worth, if fake citations are common there?

He and his defenders are basically saying "everyone does it, and you're naive to complain." If it's true that everyone does it, that reflects badly on modern academia as a whole.

Any academic researchers want to chime in here?

[marta@corteximplant.com]

@docpop to add, broken trust from your colleagues has been a problem before AI too, here's a particularly popular story https://laskowskilab.faculty.ucdavis.edu/2020/01/29/retractions/