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  • docpop@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

    > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

    yes, lol!

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    ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

    The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

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    cbleslie@hachyderm.ioC csilverman@mastodon.socialC heafnerj@mstdn.socialH oceane@gotosocial.socialO em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE 34 Replies Last reply
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    • docpop@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @FediThing I think he means it. He certainly is doubling down on X https://x.com/JimDMiller/status/2055277720326529036

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      • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

        ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

        > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

        yes, lol!

        Link Preview Image
        ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

        The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

        favicon

        404 Media (www.404media.co)

        cbleslie@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @docpop Jesus.

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        • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

          ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

          > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

          yes, lol!

          Link Preview Image
          ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

          The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

          favicon

          404 Media (www.404media.co)

          csilverman@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @docpop Funny how AI-related policy changes are revealing deeper problems that existed before AI was an issue.

          Like, Dietterich's text would make perfect sense even in a world where AI never existed. And I wouldn't want to imagine the reaction if blue-check-guy here was a student, asking that question to a teacher/professor in, say, the context of a class on how to properly structure academic writing.

          This isn't an "AI" thing, it's a "some people don't belong in science and never did" thing.

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          • clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Also, what he thinks publication credit is for.

            @FediThing @docpop

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            • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

              @FediThing I think he means it. He certainly is doubling down on X https://x.com/JimDMiller/status/2055277720326529036

              csilverman@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @docpop @FediThing I'm an xcancel fan, so I figured I'd share the link here:

              X Cancelled | Verifying your request

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              (xcancel.com)

              This Miller character, if he's real, is beyond help. Farther down, he basically says that "AI-hallucinated inaccuracies are better than human inaccuracies because the AI inaccuracies are going to be so obviously wrong that no one would take them seriously."

              I think I'm starting to see why he's so up in arms about the prospect of his scientific work, as it were, being held to higher standards.

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              • csilverman@mastodon.socialC csilverman@mastodon.social

                @docpop @FediThing I'm an xcancel fan, so I figured I'd share the link here:

                X Cancelled | Verifying your request

                favicon

                (xcancel.com)

                This Miller character, if he's real, is beyond help. Farther down, he basically says that "AI-hallucinated inaccuracies are better than human inaccuracies because the AI inaccuracies are going to be so obviously wrong that no one would take them seriously."

                I think I'm starting to see why he's so up in arms about the prospect of his scientific work, as it were, being held to higher standards.

                edcates@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @csilverman @docpop @FediThing

                FYI (if you aren't aware), the Libredirect browser extension is a wonderful thing. Set it up once and never accidentally wind up in the Xitter again.

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                • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                  ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                  > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                  yes, lol!

                  Link Preview Image
                  ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                  The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                  favicon

                  404 Media (www.404media.co)

                  heafnerj@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @docpop One problem with contemporary physics textbooks is that authors rarely, if ever, read and check the original sources by Einstein and others and proceed to perpetuate misconceptions that we as faculty must repeatedly engage with in our classrooms. It wastes our time and confuses students. This has been a thing long before arXiv or AI so I'm quite sympathetic.

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                  • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                    ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                    > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                    yes, lol!

                    Link Preview Image
                    ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                    The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                    favicon

                    404 Media (www.404media.co)

                    heafnerj@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @docpop Also, isn't this rather a high school level expectation?

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                    • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                      @FediThing I think he means it. He certainly is doubling down on X https://x.com/JimDMiller/status/2055277720326529036

                      adriano@lile.clA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @docpop @FediThing Well, his point is *slightly* more nuanced in that he's arguing "What if *I* checked the citations I added, but this other guy I co-author with did not on his part of the paper? Why am I responsible?"

                      To which I reply "sucks to be you, my guy."

                      adriano@lile.clA schnedan@social.tchncs.deS quietewe@urbanists.socialQ heptasean@social.tchncs.deH 4 Replies Last reply
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                      • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                        ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                        > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                        yes, lol!

                        Link Preview Image
                        ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                        The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                        favicon

                        404 Media (www.404media.co)

                        oceane@gotosocial.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @docpop Power move LMAO

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                        • edcates@mastodon.socialE edcates@mastodon.social

                          @csilverman @docpop @FediThing

                          FYI (if you aren't aware), the Libredirect browser extension is a wonderful thing. Set it up once and never accidentally wind up in the Xitter again.

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                          @EdCates @docpop Neat, I didn't know about that. Thanks.

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                          • adriano@lile.clA adriano@lile.cl

                            @docpop @FediThing Well, his point is *slightly* more nuanced in that he's arguing "What if *I* checked the citations I added, but this other guy I co-author with did not on his part of the paper? Why am I responsible?"

                            To which I reply "sucks to be you, my guy."

                            adriano@lile.clA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @docpop @FediThing
                            To be clear, this is the same kind of argument as "What if I need to shout the N-word to save a baby from being crushed by a bus?", and the like.

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                            • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                              ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                              > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                              yes, lol!

                              Link Preview Image
                              ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                              The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                              favicon

                              404 Media (www.404media.co)

                              em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @docpop I thought that’s why you cited them 😹
                              Or have I read the memo wrong 🤔
                              (Completely sarcastic here 😹)

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                              • heafnerj@mstdn.socialH heafnerj@mstdn.social

                                @docpop Also, isn't this rather a high school level expectation?

                                ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @heafnerj @docpop As in "only highschoolers can reasonably be expected to do this"? 🤣

                                (scnr)

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                                • csilverman@mastodon.socialC csilverman@mastodon.social

                                  @docpop Funny how AI-related policy changes are revealing deeper problems that existed before AI was an issue.

                                  Like, Dietterich's text would make perfect sense even in a world where AI never existed. And I wouldn't want to imagine the reaction if blue-check-guy here was a student, asking that question to a teacher/professor in, say, the context of a class on how to properly structure academic writing.

                                  This isn't an "AI" thing, it's a "some people don't belong in science and never did" thing.

                                  ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @csilverman @docpop It's almost like broken incentives lead to unintended consequences...

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                                  • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                                    ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                                    > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                                    yes, lol!

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                                    The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                                    favicon

                                    404 Media (www.404media.co)

                                    ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @docpop I made the mistake of briefly looking at his X posts.

                                    I'm... I'm just going to say I will not comment on it. My god, no.

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                                    • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

                                      Also, what he thinks publication credit is for.

                                      @FediThing @docpop

                                      sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @clew @FediThing @docpop

                                      or analysis. Or reading. Or brains.

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                                      • csilverman@mastodon.socialC csilverman@mastodon.social

                                        @docpop @FediThing I'm an xcancel fan, so I figured I'd share the link here:

                                        X Cancelled | Verifying your request

                                        favicon

                                        (xcancel.com)

                                        This Miller character, if he's real, is beyond help. Farther down, he basically says that "AI-hallucinated inaccuracies are better than human inaccuracies because the AI inaccuracies are going to be so obviously wrong that no one would take them seriously."

                                        I think I'm starting to see why he's so up in arms about the prospect of his scientific work, as it were, being held to higher standards.

                                        mjc0961@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        mjc0961@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @csilverman Incredibly rare Community Notes W

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                                        • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                                          ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                                          > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                                          yes, lol!

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop

                                          The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.

                                          favicon

                                          404 Media (www.404media.co)

                                          happycrow13@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @docpop Local idiot shocked to learn you should understand the subject you're telling other people about

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