ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
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Also, what he thinks publication credit is for.
or analysis. Or reading. Or brains.
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@docpop @FediThing I'm an xcancel fan, so I figured I'd share the link here:
This Miller character, if he's real, is beyond help. Farther down, he basically says that "AI-hallucinated inaccuracies are better than human inaccuracies because the AI inaccuracies are going to be so obviously wrong that no one would take them seriously."
I think I'm starting to see why he's so up in arms about the prospect of his scientific work, as it were, being held to higher standards.
@csilverman Incredibly rare Community Notes W
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop Local idiot shocked to learn you should understand the subject you're telling other people about
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop You expect to get a reasonable response to post on X ???
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop James Miller took apart his Rubik's Cube to solve it.
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@FediThing @docpop the chap's a PhD
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please
I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.
I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop @EthicalProfessor
They're not egen demanding thauch. Thye just require that authors check the citations are to actual papers, mot just imagined plausible-looking lists. -
ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop from his profile, Miller has a PhD from U. Chicago, a JD from Stanford, and is a professor at Smith College.
I think this reflects badly on every one of those-- what is research from these places actually worth, if fake citations are common there?He and his defenders are basically saying "everyone does it, and you're naive to complain." If it's true that everyone does it, that reflects badly on modern academia as a whole.
Any academic researchers want to chime in here?
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@docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please
I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.
I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...
@docpop to add, broken trust from your colleagues has been a problem before AI too, here's a particularly popular story https://laskowskilab.faculty.ucdavis.edu/2020/01/29/retractions/
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop Um....this raises so many questions. Like where did they buy their advanced degrees?
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop good grief, these dudes are definitely telling on themselves. If they can't find the time or means to vet everything they've written, why should we spend the time or means reading their crap?
(See also: https://bsky.app/profile/manigarm.bsky.social/post/3mm2g7372yc2o )
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop
"But I only had SuckJobAI create the fake citations to support what you and I both know is true anyway that I wrote about, if you'd just do your fuckin' reasear..." -
He said further down in the thread what he thinks citations are for:
"The citations are there to help readers who want to learn more about a sub topic, quickly locate new papers. They also function as a business suit, signaling that you're a serious person."
(yikes)
and various people have replied to that saying no that is not, in fact, what they are for!
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@FediThing @unchartedworlds @docpop The bar to be one is maybe not as high as it should be? (That's how I hope to sneak in as one. maybe!)
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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.
> You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!
yes, lol!
ArXiv to Ban Researchers for a Year if They Submit AI Slop
The change comes as arXiv and others struggle to manage an influx of AI-generated materials masquerading as rigorous science.
404 Media (www.404media.co)
@docpop Guess this James Miller is not skilled, qualified and educated enough to file papers... even without AI content.
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@FediThing @unchartedworlds @docpop guess its a similar process as granting a patent in the USA... (like the ones our specialist tells us: these patent is valid even if it would never get approval in Germany, Europe, China,...), or safety certificates for Boeing...
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@docpop @FediThing Well, his point is *slightly* more nuanced in that he's arguing "What if *I* checked the citations I added, but this other guy I co-author with did not on his part of the paper? Why am I responsible?"
To which I reply "sucks to be you, my guy."
@adriano @docpop @FediThing well how we did it at university back then? We did all the work alone, when there was no trustworthy partner for group-work. If you wanted to ensure quality and deadlines, you needed the one person you can trust: Yourself.
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@docpop @FediThing
To be clear, this is the same kind of argument as "What if I need to shout the N-word to save a baby from being crushed by a bus?", and the like.@adriano @docpop @FediThing Naggers?
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@FediThing @docpop the chap's a PhD
@jackeric @FediThing @docpop I meet PhD which barely were able to fasten one's shoes... a PhD just means: get some 20+% more money for the same work.
