ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

[mrak@solarsystem.social]

@docpop You expect to get a reasonable response to post on X ???

[gustodon@mas.to]

@docpop James Miller took apart his Rubik's Cube to solve it.

[jackeric@beige.party]

@FediThing @docpop the chap's a PhD

[marta@corteximplant.com]

@docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please

I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.

I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...

[a_cubed@mastodon.social]

@docpop @EthicalProfessor
They're not egen demanding thauch. Thye just require that authors check the citations are to actual papers, mot just imagined plausible-looking lists.

[jamesmarshall@sfba.social]

@docpop from his profile, Miller has a PhD from U. Chicago, a JD from Stanford, and is a professor at Smith College. I think this reflects badly on every one of those-- what is research from these places actually worth, if fake citations are common there?

He and his defenders are basically saying "everyone does it, and you're naive to complain." If it's true that everyone does it, that reflects badly on modern academia as a whole.

Any academic researchers want to chime in here?

[marta@corteximplant.com]

@docpop to add, broken trust from your colleagues has been a problem before AI too, here's a particularly popular story https://laskowskilab.faculty.ucdavis.edu/2020/01/29/retractions/

[rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social]

@docpop Um....this raises so many questions. Like where did they buy their advanced degrees?

[tpfto@mathstodon.xyz]

@docpop good grief, these dudes are definitely telling on themselves. If they can't find the time or means to vet everything they've written, why should we spend the time or means reading their crap?

(See also: https://bsky.app/profile/manigarm.bsky.social/post/3mm2g7372yc2o )

[ggmcbg@mstdn.plus]

@docpop
"But I only had SuckJobAI create the fake citations to support what you and I both know is true anyway that I wrote about, if you'd just do your fuckin' reasear..."

[unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyz]

@FediThing @docpop

He said further down in the thread what he thinks citations are for:

"The citations are there to help readers who want to learn more about a sub topic, quickly locate new papers. They also function as a business suit, signaling that you're a serious person."

(yikes)

and various people have replied to that saying no that is not, in fact, what they are for!

[damonhd@mastodon.social]

@FediThing @unchartedworlds @docpop The bar to be one is maybe not as high as it should be? (That's how I hope to sneak in as one. maybe!)

[schnedan@social.tchncs.de]

@docpop Guess this James Miller is not skilled, qualified and educated enough to file papers... even without AI content.

[schnedan@social.tchncs.de]

@FediThing @unchartedworlds @docpop guess its a similar process as granting a patent in the USA... (like the ones our specialist tells us: these patent is valid even if it would never get approval in Germany, Europe, China,...), or safety certificates for Boeing...

[schnedan@social.tchncs.de]

@adriano @docpop @FediThing well how we did it at university back then? We did all the work alone, when there was no trustworthy partner for group-work. If you wanted to ensure quality and deadlines, you needed the one person you can trust: Yourself.

[schnedan@social.tchncs.de]

@adriano @docpop @FediThing Naggers?

[schnedan@social.tchncs.de]

@jackeric @FediThing @docpop I meet PhD which barely were able to fasten one's shoes... a PhD just means: get some 20+% more money for the same work.

[temptoetiam@eldritch.cafe]

@rjblaskiewicz @docpop even worse: the guy teaches. In college.
His ratemyprofessor page is... interesting.

[rickf@indieweb.social]

@docpop @digitalsnow

I both cringe and laugh in professor.

[alicemcalicepants@ohai.social]

@docpop I read at least part of every book in the bibliography of my PhD thesis. Did I do it wrong?