Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can.

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!

[dve@norden.social]

@jwildeboer
Let's hope you are still right tomorrow morning.

[vosje62@mastodon.nl]

@jwildeboer I don't know what Vance was thinking, but a foreign power going to tell me how to vote... In a nationalistic country??

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

@dve Ah, the German "yes, but" that always will be among the first five replies to any of my posts Yes, I am sure I will still be right tomorrow. Wanna bet?

[dve@norden.social]

@jwildeboer
No, because now I saw that urban has admitted his defeat.

[mvrenselaar@mastodon.nl]

@jwildeboer agree!!! Hopefully a song of more to come!

[stevvest@chaos.social]

@jwildeboer Yes, that’s what I’m hoping for too, and it lets me go to bed a little more at ease tonight.

[frantasaur@mastodon.ie]

@vosje62 @jwildeboer doesn’t trump send Vance in to take the blame when they already know it’s fucked?

[mkoek@mastodon.nl]

@vosje62 @jwildeboer JD’s charisma at work

[vosje62@mastodon.nl]

@Frantasaur @jwildeboer
It doesn't matter why. 'Orban was send home the day after his visit'.

[irisherself@mastodon.social]

@jwildeboer ...and they did it _again_ !! It was #Hungary who in 1989 opened their consulate doors to East Germans wanting to flee the regime, and the Hungarian consulate/embassy let them enter and cross into the west... that underpinned the "tear down that wall" momentum #PanEuropean #ironCurtain #freeEurope

[irisherself@mastodon.social]

@jwildeboer it was a different september eleven but as impactful

"Thousands East Germans streamed into #Hungary to take the opportunity, resulting in an exodus that accelerated the collapse of the #BerlinWall on 9 November 1989"

September 11, 1989: When Hungary Tore A Hole In The Iron Curtain

Thirty years ago, Hungary lifted restrictions on travel to Austria, enabling tens of thousands of East Germans to flee to the West. The September 1989 events in Hungary are often described as the first cracks in the Berlin Wall.

RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty (www.rferl.org)

[alison@burningboard.net]

@jwildeboer First points went to Poland, don't forget.

[bzdev@fosstodon.org]

@jwildeboer At the tail end of the last U.S. presidential election, I got desperate emails from the Harris campaign about how they were being outspent in "swing states". Some billionaires who wanted Trump in put up a large chunk of change for those last couple of weeks, and that was used to run lots of attack ads against Harris.

That behavior is a risk factor for Europe as well. We tried to fix it, but a U.S. Supreme Court decision declared the campaign-finance law unconstitutional.
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[aj_andrew69@mastodon.social]

@jwildeboer. I'm very happy for all the Hungarian people .

[janantos@f.cz]

@bzdev @jwildeboer we have laws in Europe about campaign financing a those needs to be transparent, at least in countries I live(d)

[bzdev@fosstodon.org]

@jwildeboer We have laws about reporting non-trivial campaign contributions, but it takes time for those reports to be processed, so with a large infusion of cash in the last two weeks or so, nobody really knew where it was coming from. Because most states are "winner takes all" for electoral college votes, that cash was used to target those states where the vote could go either way.

[heliograph@mastodon.au]

@Irisherself
https://mastodon.social/@MissingThePt/116393730049244006

@jwildeboer

[guillotine_jones@beige.party]

@jwildeboer
After his effects on the late Pope and now Orban's, re-election, may I suggest that Trump send Vance on a diplomatic mission to Russia's Putin?

[inchulk@mastodon.green]

@jwildeboer I am in the centre of Budapest at 1am - cars with horns blaring, streets packed with very happy (some pretty drunk) people, lot of cheering and flag waving. Not see this since Athens in the early 80s when the left finally won power.