Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can.
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer agree!!! Hopefully a song of more to come!
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer Yes, that’s what I’m hoping for too, and it lets me go to bed a little more at ease tonight.
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@jwildeboer I don't know what Vance was thinking, but a foreign power going to tell me how to vote... In a nationalistic country??
@vosje62 @jwildeboer doesn’t trump send Vance in to take the blame when they already know it’s fucked?
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@jwildeboer I don't know what Vance was thinking, but a foreign power going to tell me how to vote... In a nationalistic country??
@vosje62 @jwildeboer JD’s charisma at work
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@vosje62 @jwildeboer doesn’t trump send Vance in to take the blame when they already know it’s fucked?
@Frantasaur @jwildeboer
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer ...and they did it _again_ !! It was #Hungary who in 1989 opened their consulate doors to East Germans wanting to flee the regime, and the Hungarian consulate/embassy let them enter and cross into the west... that underpinned the "tear down that wall" momentum
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@jwildeboer ...and they did it _again_ !! It was #Hungary who in 1989 opened their consulate doors to East Germans wanting to flee the regime, and the Hungarian consulate/embassy let them enter and cross into the west... that underpinned the "tear down that wall" momentum
#PanEuropean #ironCurtain #freeEurope@jwildeboer it was a different september eleven but as impactful
"Thousands East Germans streamed into #Hungary to take the opportunity, resulting in an exodus that accelerated the collapse of the #BerlinWall on 9 November 1989"
September 11, 1989: When Hungary Tore A Hole In The Iron Curtain
Thirty years ago, Hungary lifted restrictions on travel to Austria, enabling tens of thousands of East Germans to flee to the West. The September 1989 events in Hungary are often described as the first cracks in the Berlin Wall.
RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty (www.rferl.org)
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer First points went to Poland, don't forget.
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer At the tail end of the last U.S. presidential election, I got desperate emails from the Harris campaign about how they were being outspent in "swing states". Some billionaires who wanted Trump in put up a large chunk of change for those last couple of weeks, and that was used to run lots of attack ads against Harris.
That behavior is a risk factor for Europe as well. We tried to fix it, but a U.S. Supreme Court decision declared the campaign-finance law unconstitutional.
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer. I'm very happy for all the Hungarian people
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@jwildeboer At the tail end of the last U.S. presidential election, I got desperate emails from the Harris campaign about how they were being outspent in "swing states". Some billionaires who wanted Trump in put up a large chunk of change for those last couple of weeks, and that was used to run lots of attack ads against Harris.
That behavior is a risk factor for Europe as well. We tried to fix it, but a U.S. Supreme Court decision declared the campaign-finance law unconstitutional.
(more)@bzdev @jwildeboer we have laws in Europe about campaign financing a those needs to be transparent, at least in countries I live(d)
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@jwildeboer At the tail end of the last U.S. presidential election, I got desperate emails from the Harris campaign about how they were being outspent in "swing states". Some billionaires who wanted Trump in put up a large chunk of change for those last couple of weeks, and that was used to run lots of attack ads against Harris.
That behavior is a risk factor for Europe as well. We tried to fix it, but a U.S. Supreme Court decision declared the campaign-finance law unconstitutional.
(more)@jwildeboer We have laws about reporting non-trivial campaign contributions, but it takes time for those reports to be processed, so with a large infusion of cash in the last two weeks or so, nobody really knew where it was coming from. Because most states are "winner takes all" for electoral college votes, that cash was used to target those states where the vote could go either way.
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@jwildeboer ...and they did it _again_ !! It was #Hungary who in 1989 opened their consulate doors to East Germans wanting to flee the regime, and the Hungarian consulate/embassy let them enter and cross into the west... that underpinned the "tear down that wall" momentum
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
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After his effects on the late Pope and now Orban's, re-election, may I suggest that Trump send Vance on a diplomatic mission to Russia's Putin? -
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer I am in the centre of Budapest at 1am - cars with horns blaring, streets packed with very happy (some pretty drunk) people, lot of cheering and flag waving. Not see this since Athens in the early 80s when the left finally won power.
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
Any entity funded by the fossil fuel industry and its massive system of international public corruption needs to acknowledge the fate that awaits.
https://www.desmog.com/2025/01/21/mapped-donald-trump-transatlantic-anti-green-network/
People tire of the high prices & fossil fuel funded fascism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.htmlPeople want cheaper renewable energy, wind & solar.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-plummeting-cost-of-renewable-energy/
Levelized cost of energy for renewables
The average cost per unit of energy generated across the lifetime of a new power plant. This data is expressed in US dollars per kilowatt-hour. It is adjusted for inflation but does not account for differences in living costs between countries.
Our World in Data (ourworldindata.org)
People want to ditch waste like data centers.
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
Unfortunately, we are ruled by billionaire owned media that will spin reality to align with their owners
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Unfortunately, we are ruled by billionaire owned media that will spin reality to align with their owners
@dianea It seems they have failed tonight in Hungary. Before that they failed in Poland. Maybe they are not that powerful and their influence is cracking? I am always the optimist.
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@jwildeboer We have laws about reporting non-trivial campaign contributions, but it takes time for those reports to be processed, so with a large infusion of cash in the last two weeks or so, nobody really knew where it was coming from. Because most states are "winner takes all" for electoral college votes, that cash was used to target those states where the vote could go either way.
@bzdev Were I the facetious type, I might say something along the lines of "I guess the people who paid for Citizens United to go their way will have felt they got their money's worth then?"
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Hungary proves that neither Russia nor Trump can sway votes the way they think they can. Being associated with Trump or Russia is now a bad thing, which is good for democracy in Europe. Thank you, people from Hungary. You might have started something that is bigger than just this election!
@jwildeboer With a margin this big, I imagine Orbán and his handlers saw no real scope to contest the results?
I am already quietly beginning to fear the ways in which state actors will ramp up their attempts to sabotage things in the EU; a defeat this resounding will have set off very loud alarm bells all the way through Beijing, Moscow and Washington*.
*: To think that we have to now include Washington (& the CIA) in said company is in itself *extremely* concerning, but here we are.
