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  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

    I hate this timeline.

    As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

    We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

    #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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    #8

    @chris Yeah, this is pretty much the scenario I thought we all agreed was the worst case. Don’t delay any further because it will be so much more calamitous the longer we wait. And well here we are.

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    • amgine@mamot.frA amgine@mamot.fr

      @chris

      I wish I still had the link.

      There's a website which published the predicted major stages of social impacts due to climate change, in about 1996. And it was still up, frozen in time, when I saw it about 2016. The forecasts were the consensus at the UNFCCC in 1992.

      And at that time its accuracy was already frightening.

      With the new models for sea rise as we have blown past tipping points, we will likely live to see the great migrations begin.

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      #9

      @Amgine some say Syria was the first great migration as the civil war was in part caused by historic drought. But ya, I think we will unfortunately see much larger migrations. (we as in you and I)

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      • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

        @chris

        when you pray for the price of oil & gas to rise, you are praying for increased drilling of my home &, at this point, the end to the Endangered Species Act & our environmental protections in the Gulf of Mexico

        if you're a long-time climate campaigner, please notice that raising the price of oil has never once in the history of earth done anything except make companies & countries drill more because suddenly their product is too valuable to leave in the ground

        SIGH

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        #10

        @peachfront great point. I don't know whether to be hopeful or poke my eyes out, truly.

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        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

          I hate this timeline.

          As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

          We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

          #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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          #11

          @chris
          There's no room for truly long-term thinking in a world that mostly cares about quarter-to-quarter performance. "Long term" to them is looking at year-over-year trends.

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          • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

            I hate this timeline.

            As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

            We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

            #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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            #12

            @chris the neoliberal centrists cancelled climate change, silly

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            • dyckron@cosocial.caD dyckron@cosocial.ca

              @chris the neoliberal centrists cancelled climate change, silly

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              #13

              @dyckron OH YA!

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              • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                @peachfront great point. I don't know whether to be hopeful or poke my eyes out, truly.

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                #14

                @chris

                i'm extremely disheartened, the Endangered Species Act has stood for 50 years, now apparently they're going to just... wipe it away...

                i can't help but feel like that's the true purpose of the war, to provide the oil companies with one last grab at huge profits because otherwise their market share would have just continued to go quietly downward as they're replaced with greener tech

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                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                  @Amgine some say Syria was the first great migration as the civil war was in part caused by historic drought. But ya, I think we will unfortunately see much larger migrations. (we as in you and I)

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                  #15

                  @chris

                  70 m sea rise. I keep thinking I should buy land which will flood, and build clam beds, salmon corrals, while it is still dry. Or start terrafarming the alpines.

                  Of course, if I had money for that I would already have spent it on building social housing.

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                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                    @dyckron OH YA!

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                    @chris 🤣 *whew*

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                    • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                      @chris

                      i'm extremely disheartened, the Endangered Species Act has stood for 50 years, now apparently they're going to just... wipe it away...

                      i can't help but feel like that's the true purpose of the war, to provide the oil companies with one last grab at huge profits because otherwise their market share would have just continued to go quietly downward as they're replaced with greener tech

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                      @peachfront i think that is precisely the reason.

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                      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                        I hate this timeline.

                        As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                        We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                        #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                        @chris

                        I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                        • paulbusch@cosocial.caP paulbusch@cosocial.ca

                          @chris

                          I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                          @PaulBusch lol! yes!

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                          • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                            I hate this timeline.

                            As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                            We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                            #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                            @chris
                            Want to agree but unfortunately there's a LOT of poor people that's going to suffer. As usual.

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                            • bike4climate@mastodon.nuB bike4climate@mastodon.nu

                              @chris
                              Want to agree but unfortunately there's a LOT of poor people that's going to suffer. As usual.

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                              @bike4climate always 😞

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                              • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                I hate this timeline.

                                As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                @chris
                                If there is a silver lining to this madness, it might be that. But I’m not holding my breath. #Climate

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                                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                  I hate this timeline.

                                  As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                  We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                  #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                  #23

                                  @chris Reminds me of the adage: when is the best time to plant a tree? 30 years ago. When is the second best time to plant a tree? right now. But why do they changes have to be on the back of so many deaths and so much destruction.

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                                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                    I hate this timeline.

                                    As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                    We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                    #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                    @chris For once perhaps a GOOD unintended consequence.

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                                    • paulbusch@cosocial.caP paulbusch@cosocial.ca

                                      @chris

                                      I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                                      @PaulBusch @chris Seriously, look at Europe since Ukranian invasion. Alternatives are 5 years ahead of schedule.

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                                      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                        I hate this timeline.

                                        As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                        We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                        #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @chris
                                        I feel you. It’s a weird situation to be cheering on the blowing up of O&G infrastructure, tankers etc., but it really seems like the only way to move the dial after decades of trying to get people to see reason. 🤦‍♂️

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                                        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                          I hate this timeline.

                                          As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                          We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                          #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                          #27

                                          @chris easily said... yatta yatta.

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