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  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

    I hate this timeline.

    As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

    We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

    #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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    #11

    @chris
    There's no room for truly long-term thinking in a world that mostly cares about quarter-to-quarter performance. "Long term" to them is looking at year-over-year trends.

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    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

      I hate this timeline.

      As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

      We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

      #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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      #12

      @chris the neoliberal centrists cancelled climate change, silly

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      • dyckron@cosocial.caD dyckron@cosocial.ca

        @chris the neoliberal centrists cancelled climate change, silly

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        #13

        @dyckron OH YA!

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        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

          @peachfront great point. I don't know whether to be hopeful or poke my eyes out, truly.

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          #14

          @chris

          i'm extremely disheartened, the Endangered Species Act has stood for 50 years, now apparently they're going to just... wipe it away...

          i can't help but feel like that's the true purpose of the war, to provide the oil companies with one last grab at huge profits because otherwise their market share would have just continued to go quietly downward as they're replaced with greener tech

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          • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

            @Amgine some say Syria was the first great migration as the civil war was in part caused by historic drought. But ya, I think we will unfortunately see much larger migrations. (we as in you and I)

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            @chris

            70 m sea rise. I keep thinking I should buy land which will flood, and build clam beds, salmon corrals, while it is still dry. Or start terrafarming the alpines.

            Of course, if I had money for that I would already have spent it on building social housing.

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            • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

              @dyckron OH YA!

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              #16

              @chris 🤣 *whew*

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              • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                @chris

                i'm extremely disheartened, the Endangered Species Act has stood for 50 years, now apparently they're going to just... wipe it away...

                i can't help but feel like that's the true purpose of the war, to provide the oil companies with one last grab at huge profits because otherwise their market share would have just continued to go quietly downward as they're replaced with greener tech

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                @peachfront i think that is precisely the reason.

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                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                  I hate this timeline.

                  As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                  We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                  #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                  #18

                  @chris

                  I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                  • paulbusch@cosocial.caP paulbusch@cosocial.ca

                    @chris

                    I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                    @PaulBusch lol! yes!

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                    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                      I hate this timeline.

                      As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                      We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                      #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                      #20

                      @chris
                      Want to agree but unfortunately there's a LOT of poor people that's going to suffer. As usual.

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                      • bike4climate@mastodon.nuB bike4climate@mastodon.nu

                        @chris
                        Want to agree but unfortunately there's a LOT of poor people that's going to suffer. As usual.

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                        #21

                        @bike4climate always 😞

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                        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                          I hate this timeline.

                          As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                          We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                          #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                          @chris
                          If there is a silver lining to this madness, it might be that. But I’m not holding my breath. #Climate

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                          • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                            I hate this timeline.

                            As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                            We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                            #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                            @chris Reminds me of the adage: when is the best time to plant a tree? 30 years ago. When is the second best time to plant a tree? right now. But why do they changes have to be on the back of so many deaths and so much destruction.

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                            • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                              I hate this timeline.

                              As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                              We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                              #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                              @chris For once perhaps a GOOD unintended consequence.

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                              • paulbusch@cosocial.caP paulbusch@cosocial.ca

                                @chris

                                I hope in 50 years there are enough knowledgeable people left to protest the unveiling of Trump's monument calling him the Spark Plug of Vehicle Electrification...

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                                @PaulBusch @chris Seriously, look at Europe since Ukranian invasion. Alternatives are 5 years ahead of schedule.

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                                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                  I hate this timeline.

                                  As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                  We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                  #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                  #26

                                  @chris
                                  I feel you. It’s a weird situation to be cheering on the blowing up of O&G infrastructure, tankers etc., but it really seems like the only way to move the dial after decades of trying to get people to see reason. 🤦‍♂️

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                                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                    I hate this timeline.

                                    As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                    We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                    #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                    @chris easily said... yatta yatta.

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                                    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                      I hate this timeline.

                                      As a long time #climate campaigner... I almost feel like I should be hoping that the Iran/US war continues as long as possible so the price of oil and gasoline can go as high as possible and force economies to electrify and shift at emergency-speed to renewables.

                                      We could have started on this the easy way 30 years ago... but a few of the same people objected and obstructed.

                                      #IranUSIsraelWar #ClimateCatastrophe #ClimateWar #Oil #EndFossilFuels #ClimateCollapse #USA #CanPoli #CdnPoli

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                                      @chris there is only one slight problem I would have to buy a new car and new cars are crap.

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                                      • allen@rail.chatA allen@rail.chat

                                        @peachfront

                                        @chris

                                        If you're comparing today to the 1970s, at the time, Western dependence on oil was higher and sustainable options were either very expensive (hydro and nuclear), or experimental, low-performing and very expensive (wind and solar).

                                        Now that there are more options for countries and their consumers than to "buy the oil at whatever price", higher oil prices won't necessarily lead to more drilling long term, as a price crash when M. E. Facilities come online is predictable 1/2

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                                        @peachfront

                                        @chris

                                        Also, bear in mind that the Trump admin will dream up their own emergencies to dismantle climate policy, even if they didn't fumble their way into more real ones. See the fake energy emergencies to force coal power plants to stay open in 2025.

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                                        • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                                          @chris

                                          when you pray for the price of oil & gas to rise, you are praying for increased drilling of my home &, at this point, the end to the Endangered Species Act & our environmental protections in the Gulf of Mexico

                                          if you're a long-time climate campaigner, please notice that raising the price of oil has never once in the history of earth done anything except make companies & countries drill more because suddenly their product is too valuable to leave in the ground

                                          SIGH

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                                          @peachfront

                                          @chris

                                          If you're comparing today to the 1970s, at the time, Western dependence on oil was higher and sustainable options were either very expensive (hydro and nuclear), or experimental, low-performing and very expensive (wind and solar).

                                          Now that there are more options for countries and their consumers than to "buy the oil at whatever price", higher oil prices won't necessarily lead to more drilling long term, as a price crash when M. E. Facilities come online is predictable 1/2

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