This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
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@funnymonkey great post, but lots of work and risk of f-ing up your car. So who's actually going to do it? Just like there should be an aftermarket for this sort of work, there should be a manufacturer, who offers no surveillance cars. Better yet government needs to pass laws with stiff penalties that mandate easy and thorough disabling of all spyware in cars and on phones. Fat chances of this happening in the US of A or in China!
@RulesBuster @funnymonkey Yes please. I should start looking for a new vehicle and the RAV4 is top of a very short list. I am not buying until I know all this shit can be disabled. Ideally by a pro not me
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@funnymonkey I’ll just keep driving my 1998 Jeep. It still had the original cassette player when I bought it …
@teacher_rick @funnymonkey My car is a bit newer but crank windows, actual keys, standard transmission and a CD player with the same CD stuck since 2020. I loooove it.
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@funnymonkey Given this prevents software updates, emergency response and may invalidate warrantees - surely informing users so they can exercise buyer choice is a better option?
Or if you must do it, have a toggle switch so you can still enable it for updates.
@digdilem @funnymonkey I wouldn’t trust a toggle switch
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
One thought after watching tons of real crime TV and being amazed at what look like some stunning judicial travesties:
Should you wind up in an accident and the police/prosecution decide, rightly or wrongly, you're criminally culpable (especially where there may be angry families involved who've lost someone and demand revenge), disconnecting the surveillance system will absolutely be used as evidence of premeditation in the commission of whatever offense is being ginned-up.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey I read an article this week about all Porsches in Russia bricking overnight because they could no longer connect to the home server.
It took Russian hackers a couple of days to identify the component on the ECU and isolate it restoring full function.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey @rpmik I don’t know how it has taken this long. I have been impatiently waiting for car tech hack garages to pop up alongside the EV conversion / maintenance places for YEARS
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey @rpmik I'm hoping to buy one of these and, if necessary, take steps to remove surveillance.
But I'm also wondering whether connecting a phone via Bluetooth would give the car access to a cellular connection to the Internet.
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The article covers this.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
"Telematics delete" is a good bit of search sauce on this...
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey
Don't forget the TPS trackers
https://www.techspot.com/news/111493-hackers-can-now-track-car-location-through-tire.html -
@funnymonkey I imagine we're just a year or two from police having remote stop capabilities along with the ability to pull full location and speed logs from any car
ETA - three months away from being three years car-free, and every year I'm happier with the decision.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey I can understand the desire for privacy, but don't see what is being accomplished if you still take cellphone w you? And you can probably achieve 80%+ of this by just pulling a fuse or two, and/or disconnecting antennas, with lot less effort. Reminds me of people that put multiple locks on a door but never strengthen door and door frame or windows.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey hmmm that reminds me of something...
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@funnymonkey I can understand the desire for privacy, but don't see what is being accomplished if you still take cellphone w you? And you can probably achieve 80%+ of this by just pulling a fuse or two, and/or disconnecting antennas, with lot less effort. Reminds me of people that put multiple locks on a door but never strengthen door and door frame or windows.
@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey To my knowledge, car manufacturers do not access cell phones on the regular.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey Is be curious about similar things for Kias.
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@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey To my knowledge, car manufacturers do not access cell phones on the regular.
@starluna @funnymonkey my point is if your concerned about tracking and privacy the device that is with you 24/7 and can listen to you and watch w mic & camera plus tracks you with much higher precision should probably be primary concern vs something most are only in for minutes most days.
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@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey To my knowledge, car manufacturers do not access cell phones on the regular.
@starluna @funnymonkey and considering most people pair phones w cars not so sure about that ether, I have had work van that auto paired w strangers phone in middle of call.
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@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey To my knowledge, car manufacturers do not access cell phones on the regular.
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@starluna @funnymonkey and considering most people pair phones w cars not so sure about that ether, I have had work van that auto paired w strangers phone in middle of call.
@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey The people who are interested, potentially even engaging, in disabling all the surveillance parts in modern cars are also likely to be the same kinds of people who have taken steps to secure their phones as well.
It sounds to me like your work van's system settings need some attention if they're auto-pairing with other cars. I would definitely report that to your supervisors.
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This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.
It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid
Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)
(arkadiyt.com)
@funnymonkey wonder if this would work in the EU where eCall is mandated by law, because I bet that malicious compliance from car companies means that the modem and emergency services communications hardware are probably one and the same...
