<![CDATA[This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.]]>This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years.

It shouldn't be necessary, but it is.

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Removing the Modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid

Modern cars are computers on wheels that send home nonstop telemetry about you. In this post I remove my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid's modem and GPS to prevent that :)

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(arkadiyt.com)

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://canuck.social/users/mark/statuses/116584502781026976https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://canuck.social/users/mark/statuses/116584502781026976Sat, 16 May 2026 13:32:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 13:30:30 GMT]]>@CliffsEsport @starluna @funnymonkey It's not "all or nothing". Personally I have switched to GrapheneOS, almost done with de-Google. So eliminating this data leak is just part of an overall strategy.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Lightfighter/statuses/116584495862435831https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/Lightfighter/statuses/116584495862435831Sat, 16 May 2026 13:30:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 13:28:34 GMT]]>@CliffsEsport @starluna @funnymonkey Sealion alert.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/galacticstone/statuses/116584488269895570https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/galacticstone/statuses/116584488269895570Sat, 16 May 2026 13:28:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 13:16:14 GMT]]>@RulesBuster @funnymonkey You could just buy a used vehicle without all this stuff in it. Better for the environment too, rather than buying a newly manufactured/shipped vehicle.

If new vehicle sales suffer from people not buying them, manufacturers might reconsider the tracking.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://twit.social/users/davidbcohen/statuses/116584439777666482https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://twit.social/users/davidbcohen/statuses/116584439777666482Sat, 16 May 2026 13:16:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:58:11 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey Maybe better starting point on EFF you can click on Privacy tab/button at top and that will open entire probably overwhelming amount of info https://www.eff.org/work

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584368823701727https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584368823701727Sat, 16 May 2026 12:58:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:54:18 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey I am just frustrated I know the first thing about physical security, cars, and cyber security. And just saying worrying about the car stuff is valid but WAY down the priority list. Most people get concerned or motivated by random trigger and don't learn the fundamentals of security or privacy. Though not perfect EFF is good place to start https://www.eff.org/effector/27/14

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584353497470427https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584353497470427Sat, 16 May 2026 12:54:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:49:56 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey sigh, they could car less, and their really isn't anyway to avoid being tracked by cellphone. It has to know where you are to work there is the entire baseband side that you don't have access to. Cell towers are always keeping track of phones in their range, and that data is routinely gathered by various parties https://medium.com/@shamkarthik88/exploring-true-smartphone-privacy-the-hidden-baseband-and-the-limits-of-open-source-freedom-c41a9bffbb62

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584336376367191https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584336376367191Sat, 16 May 2026 12:49:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:49:55 GMT]]>@funnymonkey wonder if this would work in the EU where eCall is mandated by law, because I bet that malicious compliance from car companies means that the modem and emergency services communications hardware are probably one and the same...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/eobet/statuses/116584336305000418https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://oldbytes.space/users/eobet/statuses/116584336305000418Sat, 16 May 2026 12:49:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:45:54 GMT]]>@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey The people who are interested, potentially even engaging, in disabling all the surveillance parts in modern cars are also likely to be the same kinds of people who have taken steps to secure their phones as well.

It sounds to me like your work van's system settings need some attention if they're auto-pairing with other cars. I would definitely report that to your supervisors.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584320517341124https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584320517341124Sat, 16 May 2026 12:45:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:45:28 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey https://pacificdrivereducation.com/blog/car-infotainment-privacy

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584318771711594https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584318771711594Sat, 16 May 2026 12:45:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:42:35 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey and considering most people pair phones w cars not so sure about that ether, I have had work van that auto paired w strangers phone in middle of call.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584307449014015https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584307449014015Sat, 16 May 2026 12:42:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:41:31 GMT]]>@starluna @funnymonkey my point is if your concerned about tracking and privacy the device that is with you 24/7 and can listen to you and watch w mic & camera plus tracks you with much higher precision should probably be primary concern vs something most are only in for minutes most days.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584303272763268https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/CliffsEsport/statuses/116584303272763268Sat, 16 May 2026 12:41:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:39:27 GMT]]>@funnymonkey Is be curious about similar things for Kias.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584295119566545https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584295119566545Sat, 16 May 2026 12:39:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:37:51 GMT]]>@CliffsEsport @funnymonkey To my knowledge, car manufacturers do not access cell phones on the regular.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584288861316600https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/starluna/statuses/116584288861316600Sat, 16 May 2026 12:37:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:33:41 GMT]]>@funnymonkey hmmm that reminds me of something...

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/geospacedman/statuses/116584272471444537https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/geospacedman/statuses/116584272471444537Sat, 16 May 2026 12:33:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:29:43 GMT]]>@funnymonkey I can understand the desire for privacy, but don't see what is being accomplished if you still take cellphone w you? And you can probably achieve 80%+ of this by just pulling a fuse or two, and/or disconnecting antennas, with lot less effort. Reminds me of people that put multiple locks on a door but never strengthen door and door frame or windows.

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Any car with a working OnStar install is already there

@funnymonkey

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Don't forget the TPS trackers
https://www.techspot.com/news/111493-hackers-can-now-track-car-location-through-tire.html

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/NMBA/statuses/116584233711835386https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/NMBA/statuses/116584233711835386Sat, 16 May 2026 12:23:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:21:00 GMT]]>@funnymonkey

"Telematics delete" is a good bit of search sauce on this...

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Orb2069/statuses/116584222613436297https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/Orb2069/statuses/116584222613436297Sat, 16 May 2026 12:21:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 12:14:18 GMT]]>@arrrg @funnymonkey

The article covers this.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jamesbritt/statuses/116584196212513354https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jamesbritt/statuses/116584196212513354Sat, 16 May 2026 12:14:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 11:43:44 GMT]]>@funnymonkey @rpmik I'm hoping to buy one of these and, if necessary, take steps to remove surveillance.

But I'm also wondering whether connecting a phone via Bluetooth would give the car access to a cellular connection to the Internet. 🤔

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/mlanger/statuses/116584076059162017https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.world/users/mlanger/statuses/116584076059162017Sat, 16 May 2026 11:43:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 11:37:39 GMT]]>@funnymonkey @rpmik I don’t know how it has taken this long. I have been impatiently waiting for car tech hack garages to pop up alongside the EV conversion / maintenance places for YEARS

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/User47/statuses/116584052099790082https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/User47/statuses/116584052099790082Sat, 16 May 2026 11:37:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 11:21:33 GMT]]>@funnymonkey I read an article this week about all Porsches in Russia bricking overnight because they could no longer connect to the home server.

It took Russian hackers a couple of days to identify the component on the ECU and isolate it restoring full function.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/baoigheallain/statuses/116583988795137973https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ie/users/baoigheallain/statuses/116583988795137973Sat, 16 May 2026 11:21:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This post is awesome, and I predict aftermarket shops offering to remove car surveillance to spring up in the next few years. on Sat, 16 May 2026 11:08:35 GMT]]>@funnymonkey

One thought after watching tons of real crime TV and being amazed at what look like some stunning judicial travesties:

Should you wind up in an accident and the police/prosecution decide, rightly or wrongly, you're criminally culpable (especially where there may be angry families involved who've lost someone and demand revenge), disconnecting the surveillance system will absolutely be used as evidence of premeditation in the commission of whatever offense is being ginned-up.

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