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  3. it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

    it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

    nila@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @0xabad1dea I wonder how interesting of an attack vector that could be in real life scenarios. How about having an LLM generate 500 drafts with non-obvious misinformation and watch crawlers crawl it, models being trained with the data and then people citing the resulting misinformation?

    Or, more wildly: what's the authN process for working groups? I wonder how far a swarm of agent sock puppets could get in the RFC process...

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

      shwell@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #41

      @0xabad1dea Bluesky?

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        @hugo @slothrop check the replies, this is not the post that was posted on the wrong day

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        #42

        @0xabad1dea @slothrop ? Am just saying it d be a good April’s Fools thing to do. Don’t see replies on my fedi client.

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        • hugo@someone.elses.computerH hugo@someone.elses.computer

          @0xabad1dea @slothrop ? Am just saying it d be a good April’s Fools thing to do. Don’t see replies on my fedi client.

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          #43

          @hugo @slothrop I’m saying it’s a pointed political statement and not a random joke https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/116419619962656186

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          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

            if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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            #44

            @0xabad1dea I, for one, would rather welcome our feline overlords.
            (Edit: remove the URL)

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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              #45

              @0xabad1dea

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                #46

                @cinnamon @0xabad1dea
                > about time to have a standard for some kinds of communication

                There is one 😉

                Link Preview Image
                Toki Pona (official site)

                favicon

                (tokipona.org)

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                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                  if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                  #47

                  @0xabad1dea I hadn't heard about it before, but assuming it was an April Fool's Day RFC, I just searched for the ones that were published on Apr 1, 2026 and it wasn't there. A little more searching found it, and it seems to have been intended as one, but was still in a draft state. The delay in the joke feels like meta-humor and works well considering the context of IPv4 address space exhaustion and the slow implementation of IPv6.

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                    @0xabad1dea I hope people learn a little bit about the IETF draft process also: https://www.ietf.org/participate/ids/

                    Yes, anyone can submit a draft. It does not mean anything beside showing how strong what-ever they just took is...

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                    • nila@infosec.exchangeN nila@infosec.exchange

                      @0xabad1dea I wonder how interesting of an attack vector that could be in real life scenarios. How about having an LLM generate 500 drafts with non-obvious misinformation and watch crawlers crawl it, models being trained with the data and then people citing the resulting misinformation?

                      Or, more wildly: what's the authN process for working groups? I wonder how far a swarm of agent sock puppets could get in the RFC process...

                      ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #49

                      @nila @0xabad1dea the auth process is "if the IETF isn't interested, it doesn't proceed to the RFC stage", apparently.

                      You can't just post a standard, but you CAN just post a draft/proposal, which is what both this and "IPv8" are.

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                      • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                        @nila @0xabad1dea the auth process is "if the IETF isn't interested, it doesn't proceed to the RFC stage", apparently.

                        You can't just post a standard, but you CAN just post a draft/proposal, which is what both this and "IPv8" are.

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                        #50

                        @nila @0xabad1dea as long as crawlers correctly interpret the draft as a draft and journos / wiki editors etc do their due diligence (which, i am told, they always do), there is no attack vector

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                        • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                          @nila @0xabad1dea the auth process is "if the IETF isn't interested, it doesn't proceed to the RFC stage", apparently.

                          You can't just post a standard, but you CAN just post a draft/proposal, which is what both this and "IPv8" are.

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                          @ratsnakegames @0xabad1dea Do you think an agent swarm led by an APT could social engineer its way into "the IETF"? Setting up web pages, blogs, arXiv submissions etc. for a network of sock puppets definitely seems within reach of such actors.

                          (And, come to think of it, any other standards body...)

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                          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                            it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                            @0xabad1dea

                            Reminds me of Doug Zongker's publication:
                            http://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk

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                            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                              it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                              @0xabad1dea
                              Cat5e or Cat6 cable isn't good enough.
                              You need Cat9 cable,

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                              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                @hugo @slothrop I’m saying it’s a pointed political statement and not a random joke https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/116419619962656186

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                                #54

                                @0xabad1dea @slothrop 👌🏻 no worries next time I won’t reply unless to say something deep and serious which is probably once a year for me on Mastodon. You can ignore me.
                                Have a good day

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                                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                  if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                                  @0xabad1dea When I read the beginning of IPv8 I thought it was an April 1st one.

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                                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                    it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                                    @0xabad1dea I think the somebody in question is @mat ?

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                                    • orb2069@mastodon.onlineO orb2069@mastodon.online

                                      @0xabad1dea I think the somebody in question is @mat ?

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                                      @Orb2069 @mat thank you, I didn't realize there was an official announcement post on mastodon for it

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                                      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                        it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                                        @0xabad1dea throwing in an obligatory shoutout to @mat for being the ietf kitty. cats deserve credit

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                                        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                          it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                                          @0xabad1dea
                                          Okay, this is cool, my #cat would likely benefit from this. Does anyone know if there's someone already implementing this?

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