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  3. it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

    it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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    @0xabad1dea 😂😂😂

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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      #32

      @0xabad1dea I’m in a ridiculous amount of group chats, Discords, and IRC channels in which this was brought up yesterday 😆

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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        @0xabad1dea

        Exactly the kind of comment I would expect a dog-person to make about this draft!

        MEOW!!!

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        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

          it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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          @0xabad1dea Well, this explains that late April Fool’s day draft. #IPv8

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          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

            it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

            evoscale@c.imE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @0xabad1dea But is this just a... ruff draft?..

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            • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

              @0xabad1dea Is this MEOW protocol compatible with IPoAC? Seems like there might be interpretability issues.

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              @Infoseepage @0xabad1dea the MEOW designers definitely desire and planned for this interoperability, however, for some reason, existing IPoAC implementations tend to be unhappy with the interaction and deny further service !

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              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                Before I viewed the link in your post I thought you were talking about that "IPv8" draft. I have some experience writing networking code, and based on my experience I will say that the meow draft has a slightly better chance of resulting in a useful implementation than the "IPv8" draft.

                I didn't read enough of the "IPv8" draft to make it to the parts you are referring to. I didn't need to read that far to figure out that it was worthless.

                The meow draft I can see is based on TCP. But I think before it can be implemented IANA would have to allocate a protocol number. And the meow draft seems to fall short of the requirements for such an allocation.

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                • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                  @0xabad1dea Is this MEOW protocol compatible with IPoAC? Seems like there might be interpretability issues.

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                  @Infoseepage @0xabad1dea "Come see the violence inherent in the OSI 7 layer model!"

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                    When I visited that link I was reminded of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk

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                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                      it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                      @0xabad1dea I wonder how interesting of an attack vector that could be in real life scenarios. How about having an LLM generate 500 drafts with non-obvious misinformation and watch crawlers crawl it, models being trained with the data and then people citing the resulting misinformation?

                      Or, more wildly: what's the authN process for working groups? I wonder how far a swarm of agent sock puppets could get in the RFC process...

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                      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                        it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                        @0xabad1dea Bluesky?

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                        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                          @hugo @slothrop check the replies, this is not the post that was posted on the wrong day

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                          @0xabad1dea @slothrop ? Am just saying it d be a good April’s Fools thing to do. Don’t see replies on my fedi client.

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                          • hugo@someone.elses.computerH hugo@someone.elses.computer

                            @0xabad1dea @slothrop ? Am just saying it d be a good April’s Fools thing to do. Don’t see replies on my fedi client.

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                            @hugo @slothrop I’m saying it’s a pointed political statement and not a random joke https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/116419619962656186

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                            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                              if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                              @0xabad1dea I, for one, would rather welcome our feline overlords.
                              (Edit: remove the URL)

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                              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                it seems someone decided to prove you really can just publish any nonsense protocol draft with the IETF https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html

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                                @0xabad1dea

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                                  @cinnamon @0xabad1dea
                                  > about time to have a standard for some kinds of communication

                                  There is one 😉

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                                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                    if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                                    @0xabad1dea I hadn't heard about it before, but assuming it was an April Fool's Day RFC, I just searched for the ones that were published on Apr 1, 2026 and it wasn't there. A little more searching found it, and it seems to have been intended as one, but was still in a draft state. The delay in the joke feels like meta-humor and works well considering the context of IPv4 address space exhaustion and the slow implementation of IPv6.

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                                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                      if you have no idea what this is about: a very official-looking "IPv8" draft appeared that was an absolute fever dream of and-a-pony wishlist features for a censorious regime, down to using json web tokens at the hardware level for some reason

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                                      @0xabad1dea I hope people learn a little bit about the IETF draft process also: https://www.ietf.org/participate/ids/

                                      Yes, anyone can submit a draft. It does not mean anything beside showing how strong what-ever they just took is...

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                                      • nila@infosec.exchangeN nila@infosec.exchange

                                        @0xabad1dea I wonder how interesting of an attack vector that could be in real life scenarios. How about having an LLM generate 500 drafts with non-obvious misinformation and watch crawlers crawl it, models being trained with the data and then people citing the resulting misinformation?

                                        Or, more wildly: what's the authN process for working groups? I wonder how far a swarm of agent sock puppets could get in the RFC process...

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                                        @nila @0xabad1dea the auth process is "if the IETF isn't interested, it doesn't proceed to the RFC stage", apparently.

                                        You can't just post a standard, but you CAN just post a draft/proposal, which is what both this and "IPv8" are.

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                                        • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                                          @nila @0xabad1dea the auth process is "if the IETF isn't interested, it doesn't proceed to the RFC stage", apparently.

                                          You can't just post a standard, but you CAN just post a draft/proposal, which is what both this and "IPv8" are.

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                                          @nila @0xabad1dea as long as crawlers correctly interpret the draft as a draft and journos / wiki editors etc do their due diligence (which, i am told, they always do), there is no attack vector

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