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  • skimbrel@tech.lgbtS skimbrel@tech.lgbt

    @glyph @bobmonsour ooooof

    glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #40

    @skimbrel @bobmonsour "why are you booing me, I'm right"

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #41

      If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

      If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

      #NBPy

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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

        If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

        #NBPy

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        @glyph Thank you! I also do it to keep my attention focused and to make sure I'm understanding what's going on (because if I get it wrong somebody usually replies!)

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

          If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

          #NBPy

          glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #43

          Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

          miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM glyph@mastodon.socialG f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF 3 Replies Last reply
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          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

            Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

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            @glyph Because it's coercion, and coercion by definition is the antithesis of consent.

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

              miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #45

              @glyph I'm curious what the conclusion of that ends up being.

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              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #46

                It's been a while since I had to ask this question too seriously, so it's interesting to see the where the ecosystem has transitioned to. Lots of new libraries (I've never used PyBind11) but also venerable ones (Boost.Python, cffi). Interesting to hear that parameter conversions are still a significant overhead. Cross the boundaries infrequently, with large values, to avoid the translation overhead explosion, which is ancient wisdom: https://blog.glyph.im/2022/12/potato-programming.html

                #NBPy

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                • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                  @glyph I'm curious what the conclusion of that ends up being.

                  glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #47

                  @miss_rodent I somewhat famously have Weird Ideas of my own about this general topic

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    @miss_rodent I somewhat famously have Weird Ideas of my own about this general topic

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                    #48

                    @glyph ... fair, though I don't know your take on it either (somewhere in the blog archives? Not sure where to dig up your weird ideas on it.)

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                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                      It's been a while since I had to ask this question too seriously, so it's interesting to see the where the ecosystem has transitioned to. Lots of new libraries (I've never used PyBind11) but also venerable ones (Boost.Python, cffi). Interesting to hear that parameter conversions are still a significant overhead. Cross the boundaries infrequently, with large values, to avoid the translation overhead explosion, which is ancient wisdom: https://blog.glyph.im/2022/12/potato-programming.html

                      #NBPy

                      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #49

                      I am learning that all things english are uncool as @danlyke explains square dancing by way of group theory. I do love the Python community.

                      #NBPy

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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

                        "This should be easy"

                        or, in other words:

                        "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

                        This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

                        #NBPy

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                        #50

                        @glyph Them’s fightin’ words

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                        • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                          @glyph ... fair, though I don't know your take on it either (somewhere in the blog archives? Not sure where to dig up your weird ideas on it.)

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                          @glyph [I am generally outside the python ecosystem - I have a general idea who you are, but, I do not watch python conference talks or watch that crowd closely enough to know all that much about your opinions on snake-related programming practices.]

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                          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                            I am learning that all things english are uncool as @danlyke explains square dancing by way of group theory. I do love the Python community.

                            #NBPy

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                            "Pipelined Architecture", a well known feature of square dancing #NBPy

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

                              f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @glyph

                              Shotgun consent.

                              Still counts when the other guy's the one pointing the thing.

                              Or one can 'choose' to dissolve into nothingness...

                              Then the survey demanding to know how well they 'helped' today.

                              Almost as savoury and life-affirming as the involuntary consent transfusion.

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                              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                                f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @glyph

                                Numba has been a godsend for my simple but voluminous math problem (billions of tx). What took 15 minutes pure Python got crushed to 14 seconds once cleaned-up of any superfluous admin stuff and @jit'd.

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                                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                  Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

                                  "This should be easy"

                                  or, in other words:

                                  "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

                                  This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

                                  #NBPy

                                  andrybak@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @glyph fun fact: some of these are banned in the curl codebase: https://github.com/curl/curl/blob/master/scripts/badwords.txt#L99

                                  see also: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/116161776616642292

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

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                                    @glyph It shouldn't be. When I was younger, the law interpreted things as "once you own or have the right to use something, any attempt by anyone to deny you use of it is illegal and you can do whatever you need to do to use your stuff". You were supposed to minimize damage to other people's stuff, but if they tried to put a lock on something you'd already bought and paid for you could just cut the lock off.

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      let's get this party started #NBPy

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                                      @glyph Wow, I fell like I am missing so much! Amazing topic collection.

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                                      • davebauerart@mastodon.socialD davebauerart@mastodon.social

                                        @glyph Wow, I fell like I am missing so much! Amazing topic collection.

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                                        @davebauerart inducing FOMO is the goal, more people should go to this event. it’s really special!

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                                        • f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF f800gecko@mastodon.online

                                          @glyph

                                          Numba has been a godsend for my simple but voluminous math problem (billions of tx). What took 15 minutes pure Python got crushed to 14 seconds once cleaned-up of any superfluous admin stuff and @jit'd.

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                                          @f800gecko @glyph @jit JAX can also be quite nice for some problems, even ones that don't look quite like linear algebra.

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