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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

    Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

    nilajones@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @glyph

    Absolutely

    This is also used in healthcare

    And now, in the use of AI transcripts for healthcare

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

      maddiem4@raphus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @glyph This kind of "consent" structure is unfortunately nothing new - I felt a bit like this recently signing on an apartment rental, and we all know the reputation record labels made for themselves pretty much from the start of them existing at all.

      Where tech really steps in to make things worse is that:

      1. Almost all tech that people directly interact with, acts like this.*
      2. A lot more of our lives involve tech now.

      It's not that different from the push to financialize everything. There are rich people who want every aspect of human existence to happen in spaces that contribute to their own wealth and power.

      * Tech that is, not coincidentally, almost all proprietary on the outer edge.

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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        Now Alla Barbalat is talking about using Python to evaluate game balance in the context of a board game.

        For me personally this is such a fun and refreshing look at a structured approach to the *basics* of game design. A million years ago when I worked in the game industry, so much of what designers were talking about (i.e., at GDC, but also elsewhere) were esoteric, lost-in-the-weeds explanations of very specific problems. This feels very much like the missing piece of that puzzle! #NBPy

        glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

          skimbrel@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @glyph @bobmonsour ooooof

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          • skimbrel@tech.lgbtS skimbrel@tech.lgbt

            @glyph @bobmonsour ooooof

            glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @skimbrel @bobmonsour "why are you booing me, I'm right"

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

              glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

              If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

              #NBPy

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              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

                If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

                #NBPy

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                #42

                @glyph Thank you! I also do it to keep my attention focused and to make sure I'm understanding what's going on (because if I get it wrong somebody usually replies!)

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                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                  If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

                  If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

                  #NBPy

                  glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                  miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM glyph@mastodon.socialG f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

                    gcvsa@mstdn.plusG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @glyph Because it's coercion, and coercion by definition is the antithesis of consent.

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                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                      Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                      miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @glyph I'm curious what the conclusion of that ends up being.

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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                        glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #46

                        It's been a while since I had to ask this question too seriously, so it's interesting to see the where the ecosystem has transitioned to. Lots of new libraries (I've never used PyBind11) but also venerable ones (Boost.Python, cffi). Interesting to hear that parameter conversions are still a significant overhead. Cross the boundaries infrequently, with large values, to avoid the translation overhead explosion, which is ancient wisdom: https://blog.glyph.im/2022/12/potato-programming.html

                        #NBPy

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                        • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                          @glyph I'm curious what the conclusion of that ends up being.

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                          @miss_rodent I somewhat famously have Weird Ideas of my own about this general topic

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                          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                            @miss_rodent I somewhat famously have Weird Ideas of my own about this general topic

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                            @glyph ... fair, though I don't know your take on it either (somewhere in the blog archives? Not sure where to dig up your weird ideas on it.)

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              It's been a while since I had to ask this question too seriously, so it's interesting to see the where the ecosystem has transitioned to. Lots of new libraries (I've never used PyBind11) but also venerable ones (Boost.Python, cffi). Interesting to hear that parameter conversions are still a significant overhead. Cross the boundaries infrequently, with large values, to avoid the translation overhead explosion, which is ancient wisdom: https://blog.glyph.im/2022/12/potato-programming.html

                              #NBPy

                              glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              I am learning that all things english are uncool as @danlyke explains square dancing by way of group theory. I do love the Python community.

                              #NBPy

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                              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

                                "This should be easy"

                                or, in other words:

                                "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

                                This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

                                #NBPy

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                                @glyph Them’s fightin’ words

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                                • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                                  @glyph ... fair, though I don't know your take on it either (somewhere in the blog archives? Not sure where to dig up your weird ideas on it.)

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                                  #51

                                  @glyph [I am generally outside the python ecosystem - I have a general idea who you are, but, I do not watch python conference talks or watch that crowd closely enough to know all that much about your opinions on snake-related programming practices.]

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    I am learning that all things english are uncool as @danlyke explains square dancing by way of group theory. I do love the Python community.

                                    #NBPy

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                                    "Pipelined Architecture", a well known feature of square dancing #NBPy

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

                                      f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @glyph

                                      Shotgun consent.

                                      Still counts when the other guy's the one pointing the thing.

                                      Or one can 'choose' to dissolve into nothingness...

                                      Then the survey demanding to know how well they 'helped' today.

                                      Almost as savoury and life-affirming as the involuntary consent transfusion.

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                                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                        Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

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                                        @glyph

                                        Numba has been a godsend for my simple but voluminous math problem (billions of tx). What took 15 minutes pure Python got crushed to 14 seconds once cleaned-up of any superfluous admin stuff and @jit'd.

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                                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                          Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

                                          "This should be easy"

                                          or, in other words:

                                          "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

                                          This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

                                          #NBPy

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                                          @glyph fun fact: some of these are banned in the curl codebase: https://github.com/curl/curl/blob/master/scripts/badwords.txt#L99

                                          see also: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/116161776616642292

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