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I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV.

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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

    chrisjrn@social.coopC klikini@pnw.zoneK glyph@mastodon.socialG rtyler@buoyantdata.socialR joxn@wandering.shopJ 15 Replies Last reply
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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

      chrisjrn@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @glyph Polestar 2. Used is probably fine.

      Happy to make other recommendations, but that's what we have and we love it.

      glyph@mastodon.socialG genehack@dementedandsadbut.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

        klikini@pnw.zoneK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @glyph I wanted a Kia EV6 until I saw one on the road and noticed it blinks the brake light instead of having a dedicated amber signal. If that’s not an issue for you, I’d recommend checking it out!

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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          I've been putting this off for several years both because it's good to not buy unnecessary stuff but also because everything seems to have some huge bizarre inexplicable downside, or be mind-bogglingly expensive and depreciate at a rate of ten dollars a second. And why don't these things all have photovoltaics on their roofs yet?

          unlambda@hachyderm.ioU adrake@sfba.socialA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA jtig@infosec.exchangeJ 4 Replies Last reply
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          • chrisjrn@social.coopC chrisjrn@social.coop

            @glyph Polestar 2. Used is probably fine.

            Happy to make other recommendations, but that's what we have and we love it.

            glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @chrisjrn I was really hoping for more physical controls for climate and such, not an ad telling me I can beg Gemini to do it for me. But I see *some* buttons and the recommendation is hugely valuable

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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              A while ago I had a Nissan Leaf which I enjoyed. It was durable, simple, and had good range. Boring was good.
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              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

                joxn@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @glyph Based on our experience with the Soul EV (sadly, no longer available) you could try an offering from Kia., Build quality is very solid and you can use CarPlay like a normal person.

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                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                  I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

                  jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @glyph People seem to like the Kia/Hyundai EVs a lot, particularly the Hyundai Ioniq line, with the asterisk that they still haven’t worked out the ICCU problem that’s dogged those models

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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                    @glyph I bought a 2021 Mach-E last year and absolutely love it. I've had two Bolts as well, great cars.

                    I have solar on the house and uh.. only notice gas prices if it's in the news

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                    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                      @glyph People seem to like the Kia/Hyundai EVs a lot, particularly the Hyundai Ioniq line, with the asterisk that they still haven’t worked out the ICCU problem that’s dogged those models

                      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jalefkowit I was actually about to post "Is the Ioniq what I want?" and I guess perhaps that was prescient

                      joshua@pigeons.clubJ jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ ssmy@urbanists.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        @chrisjrn I was really hoping for more physical controls for climate and such, not an ad telling me I can beg Gemini to do it for me. But I see *some* buttons and the recommendation is hugely valuable

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                        @glyph the car bits are car-like.

                        Next year's VWs will be a bit more buttoney if you can wait until.... august?

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                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                          @jalefkowit I was actually about to post "Is the Ioniq what I want?" and I guess perhaps that was prescient

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                          @glyph @jalefkowit We have an Ioniq 5 and it’s been fantastic. Charges fast, good range, goes fast if you want it to, drives like a car. Plenty big for our small family.

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                          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                            @jalefkowit I was actually about to post "Is the Ioniq what I want?" and I guess perhaps that was prescient

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                            @glyph The Ioniq 5 and 6 have both been very well reviewed and have a lot of satisfied customers. The 5 is a crossover, the 6 a sedan. They’re not perfect (they both have those recessed electric door handles), but they get closer than most alternatives. They’re both available in N performance models if you want a little spice.

                            People seem to like Polestar too, but the dealer network is much thinner and they go harder on the Tesla-style “it’s the future whether you like it or not” thing. (The Polestar 4 has no rear window; you see out back entirely through cameras.)

                            Rivian and Lucid are out there if you’re ready to spend more.

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

                              jacob@social.jacobian.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @glyph I have an Ioniq5 and it (as well as its cousins the Ioniq6 and EV6/9) ticks all those boxes. I love it, best car I’ve ever owned.

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                                @glyph I have an Ioniq5 and it (as well as its cousins the Ioniq6 and EV6/9) ticks all those boxes. I love it, best car I’ve ever owned.

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                                @glyph It’s not perfect (ofc, nothing is); I can share my complaints if you want. But they’re all relatively minor, and driving for free (I have solar) makes very happy

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                                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                  I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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                                  @glyph Hyundai Kona are crazy affordable used, and true 250+ mile cars. The Ultimate trim option is very nice.
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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    I've been putting this off for several years both because it's good to not buy unnecessary stuff but also because everything seems to have some huge bizarre inexplicable downside, or be mind-bogglingly expensive and depreciate at a rate of ten dollars a second. And why don't these things all have photovoltaics on their roofs yet?

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                                    @glyph Because photovoltaics on the roof would be extra expense and more to break for not much benefit. You really can't charge that fast with photovoltaics that fit on a roof, it would top you off a little bit but you'd still need to plug in to charge unless you were driving only very occasionally.

                                    I've been quite happy with the Hyundai Ioniq 5, with two caveats, at least one of which is fixed in newer models. One is that mine doesn't have a rear windshield wiper; newer models do. The other is the ICCU (integrated charge control unit, which is used for various things including charging from AC power), which has a tendency to break, and it's unclear if they've actually fixed it in newer models or not, they haven't really been very forthcoming about what the issue is or whether they've fixed it, they've just been replacing them under warranty and it takes a couple years for them to pop on average, so it's hard to say for now if they have actually fixed the issue or not.

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                                    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                      @glyph People seem to like the Kia/Hyundai EVs a lot, particularly the Hyundai Ioniq line, with the asterisk that they still haven’t worked out the ICCU problem that’s dogged those models

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                                      @jalefkowit @glyph Count me among the happy KIA/Hyundai owners. We went with the KIA Niro, which is smallish and leaves out all the gimmicks, being just a tiny crossover that happens to be electric.

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                                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                        I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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                                        @glyph I have a Solterra and I would recommend not that (although part of my issue is that I bought before they dropped the price, so the value feels lower to me)
                                        IIRC @qlp has a public spreadsheet of his research into EVs, and his priorities seem to have significant overlap with yours

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                                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                          I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

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                                          @glyph @show has lots of good reviews, and they don't do teslas. They helped me end up in a Kia Niro, which has served me well.

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