<![CDATA[I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV.]]>I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. I am—obviously—not getting a Tesla, and I'd just like a reliable, regular EV that can fit a kid and a few friends. But the offerings in the US seem confusing and gimmicky. I don't want a big truck or an experimental mess full of panel gaps and slow charging. I don't want my feet nailed to the floor of some proprietary subscription HUD; I want to use CarPlay like a normal person

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/fe757721-409f-45ae-8b98-a8107e4d3a1a/i-found-gas-for-less-than-6-today-and-felt-a-little-thrill-which-tells-me-that-maybe-it-s-time-to-get-an-ev.RSS for NodeFri, 17 Apr 2026 14:54:14 GMTTue, 14 Apr 2026 03:11:24 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:28:48 GMT]]>@glyph there was a company in NL that attempted to create a car with solar panels on the roof. The efficiency was not there, and it also stops when you park in a garage or under something. It turned out to be more of a gimmick.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jtig/statuses/116401407814000013https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jtig/statuses/116401407814000013Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:28:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:17:42 GMT]]>@jalefkowit @glyph @chrisjrn

Yeah, and they're planning to make it for only a year and stop again? Seems like the dumbest move ever. ("Americans love big cars! Stop buying this smaller one! Okay, fine, we'll make it again, but seriously, stop!")

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mattdm/statuses/116401364200594287https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mattdm/statuses/116401364200594287Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:17:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:01:09 GMT]]>@chrisjrn @glyph my wife drives one of these too, and it’s great.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dementedandsadbut.social/users/genehack/statuses/116401299124092362https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dementedandsadbut.social/users/genehack/statuses/116401299124092362Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:01:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:41:10 GMT]]>@glyph Another +1 for the Ioniq5. I still driving is terrible and avoid it when I can but I am glad to have the ease of charging and safety features when I have to.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cloudisland.nz/users/coderanger/statuses/116401220533503239https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://cloudisland.nz/users/coderanger/statuses/116401220533503239Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:41:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:39:10 GMT]]>@glyph I can't vouch for the new model, but our 2017 bolt is still going strong (minus 15-20% of the battery, but it's been almost 10 years) the only thing that makes me consider upgrading is the slow DC charging, but we only take 2-3 road trips a year, so an upgrade hardly seems worth it. EVs are stupid reliable, handle well, and save $$$ if you have access to charging at home. (Also, unless you commute long distances to work every day, you can probably get away with trickle charging)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.community/users/ianburnette/statuses/116401212621395992https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.community/users/ianburnette/statuses/116401212621395992Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:39:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:34:22 GMT]]>@glyph VW e-Golf owner for 6 years. People get hung up on charging speeds too much IMO but I also don’t know your situation so all I can say is I’ve really liked the car. CarPlay works and I have buttons galore. Used prices are very reasonable now.

TeslaBjorn’s YouTube channel has many 1000km road trips on many (most?) EVs in Norway weather and he has Google Sheets with data on charging speeds and trip times. He also has data on used EVs.

You may enjoy this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NG4hycq8n0

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jefframnani/statuses/116401193772371613https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jefframnani/statuses/116401193772371613Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:34:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:27:51 GMT]]>@glyph look at Kia. Their EV offerings are surprisingly compelling.

(My gf has an EV6 and I had a Niro.)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tacobelllabs.net/users/astraluma/statuses/116401168186764803https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tacobelllabs.net/users/astraluma/statuses/116401168186764803Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:27:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:25:32 GMT]]>@aeva @glyph the only serious-ish car I've seen with solar panels on top is Aptera - which really only gets away with solar panels because the entire vehicle is designed for ludicrous efficiency from the the very start, arguably to the major detriment of its usability as a car outside of places like California with Perfect Weather Basically All The Time

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.boiler.social/users/cxberger/statuses/116401159042631320https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.boiler.social/users/cxberger/statuses/116401159042631320Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:25:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:19:25 GMT]]>@aeva @glyph https://xkcd.com/1924/

Battery electric cars generally fall under

  • regular chance to recharge/swap batteries (plug it into a relatively normal wall outlet overnight, increasing build out of EV charging infrastructure elsewhere)
  • hot to the touch in operation (energy density for solar panels isn't there + there is less space on the roof of a normal car than you really need + most cars are not terribly efficient at using their energy)
  • empty space nearby (if we insist on building giant parking lots everywhere, we could at least shade them with solar panel structures, though making that happen would be a pretty big investment by a lot of entities)
]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.boiler.social/users/cxberger/statuses/116401135003502952https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.boiler.social/users/cxberger/statuses/116401135003502952Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:19:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:17:36 GMT]]>@glyph

I bought a 2024 Nissan leaf a few months back. Physical knobs for the climate control, physical volume knob, and works well with Android auto.

I've been just using the Level 1 charger the dealer gave us and it's been plenty

I know the battery pack doesn't have the best cooling, but as long as I'm sensible about things that shouldn't cause me trouble in my normal daily drive.

Really makes me wish I'd bought a used leaf ages ago when I first floated the idea.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://furry.engineer/users/Kehvarl/statuses/116401127875953813https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://furry.engineer/users/Kehvarl/statuses/116401127875953813Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:17:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:16:58 GMT]]>@glyph @jalefkowit another vote for the ioniq 5. We're happy with ours after 3 years and you can buy the same car for half what it was new these days, which is a wild deal.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://urbanists.social/users/ssmy/statuses/116401125377955591https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://urbanists.social/users/ssmy/statuses/116401125377955591Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:16:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:09:43 GMT]]>@aeva @glyph also you can put solar panels on top of your carparks and get the same benefits with much lower cost and complexity and you don't need to carry the weight around.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dotstdy/statuses/116401096819454561https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dotstdy/statuses/116401096819454561Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:09:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:08:41 GMT]]>@glyph i assume the charging speed from just solar panels doesn't make up for the weight of the solar panels yet

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/aeva/statuses/116401092765940138https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.gamedev.place/users/aeva/statuses/116401092765940138Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:08:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:06:05 GMT]]>@david @glyph I second the Kona recommendation: we bought a used 2022, and have been very happy with it.

The warranty on the power train (battery system) was a clincher for us: 10y/100k miles even used is hard to beat.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/BrianAllbee/statuses/116401082538605698https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/BrianAllbee/statuses/116401082538605698Tue, 14 Apr 2026 04:06:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:53:32 GMT]]>@bengerman @glyph Tesla was never on my list even before Musk went full fash.

Android Auto and Apple CarPlay were absolute musts for me, so that also meant Rivian and all GM EVs were off the table (Honda Prologue still has it, but it's horrible packaged thanks to the same GM Ultium platform and chassis shared with the Blazer EV).

Even when I started to veer towards the Trailseeker late last year, Volkwagen and Audi had already lost me with less-than-stellar combination of pricing, efficiency and packaging of the ID.4/Q4. Don't get me started on the A6/Q6 e-tron.

The non-standard exterior door handles on the Ford Mustang Mach-E and Ford decontenting some of the trims made it less appealing, even if the estimated range numbers were pretty decent.

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 and the Kia EV6 had been very high on my list, though there was still the uncertainty of the ICCU reliability/fix, the non-standard exterior door handles aren't great, and driving position and comfort both myself and my mom weren't impressing us much.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116401033185862469https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116401033185862469Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:53:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:45:31 GMT]]>@mattdm @glyph @chrisjrn There’s now also the new Bolt, but GM means no CarPlay (I don’t understand it either). It at least does come with native NACS/Tesla-style charging though, no adapter required.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/jalefkowit/statuses/116401001695189282https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/jalefkowit/statuses/116401001695189282Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:45:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:44:42 GMT]]>@bengerman @glyph I ended up ordering a Subaru Trailseeker (which is the "twin" of the Toyota bZ Woodland) since it is very wagon-like, coming from an A4 allroad wagon and all. It should be arriving in the next week or two.

It does have some subscription options, but they are not mandatory if you're planning on using navigation apps via Apple CarPlay or Android Auto.

It doesn't have all of the physical controls that I would love, especially for the HVAC controls, but it has normal exterior and interior door handles. I don't care if it has a frunk or not (it doesn't) since it wouldn't useful for my mom given the hood/bonnet height of most taller EVs.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116400998488390461https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116400998488390461Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:44:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:44:29 GMT]]>@glyph assuming you strapped one of my shiny new rooftop solar panels to the top of your car, you'd get 435W of power under ideal conditions. At 140 MPGe, each mile of range requires 241Wh. So that panel would get you about 2 miles of range per hour of direct summer sun under perfect conditions. It's just way too little power to matter.

That panel is 1x1.8 meters which is probably about the limit on usable area for most normal-sized car roofs, without wrecking the aerodynamics by making the entire roof flat.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/adrake/statuses/116400997650815559https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sfba.social/users/adrake/statuses/116400997650815559Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:44:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:39:40 GMT]]>@bengerman @glyph I've published the spreadsheet on Google Docs as I've had issues with document web viewer on my Nextcloud instance.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcEX12iPTSRJYW8z17FbF2oWBvd2ZBlreFbAR-JEZ9k/edit?usp=sharing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116400978660098886https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://linh.social/users/qlp/statuses/116400978660098886Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:39:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:37:29 GMT]]>@glyph @chrisjrn

Chevy Bolt EUV used. Has Android Auto. Also has quite a few actual physical buttons.

Main downside is it uses the older-style charging cable and everything is moving to standardize on Tesla-style.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mattdm/statuses/116400970086658134https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mattdm/statuses/116400970086658134Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:37:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:36:32 GMT]]>@glyph If you want a more basic option, I’d look at the Chevy Equinox and the Nissan Leaf. (The Equinox is GM, which means no CarPlay. Sigh.)

The Ford Mustang Mach-E isn’t really a Mustang (I will die on this hill, sorry) but seems fine for what it is. There are sportier GT and Rally models now.

You can probably find a good deal on a Volkswagen ID.4 if you like disaster movies. The ID.Buzz seems at least more reliable, but is crazy expensive for what you get. Will turn heads, though.

~ end of unsolicited car advice ~

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/jalefkowit/statuses/116400966363684918https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://vmst.io/users/jalefkowit/statuses/116400966363684918Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:36:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:36:19 GMT]]>@glyph @show has lots of good reviews, and they don't do teslas. They helped me end up in a Kia Niro, which has served me well.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/rifter/statuses/116400965539762118https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/rifter/statuses/116400965539762118Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:36:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:35:04 GMT]]>@glyph I have a Solterra and I would recommend not that (although part of my issue is that I bought before they dropped the price, so the value feels lower to me)
IIRC @qlp has a public spreadsheet of his research into EVs, and his priorities seem to have significant overlap with yours

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/bengerman/statuses/116400960607646143https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/bengerman/statuses/116400960607646143Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:35:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I found gas for less than $6 today and felt a little thrill, which tells me that maybe it's time to get an EV. on Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:34:49 GMT]]>@jalefkowit @glyph Count me among the happy KIA/Hyundai owners. We went with the KIA Niro, which is smallish and leaves out all the gimmicks, being just a tiny crossover that happens to be electric.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danielleigh/statuses/116400959646003172https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danielleigh/statuses/116400959646003172Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:34:49 GMT