There are many problems with #USA #democracy
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There are many problems with #USA #democracy
Like the stupid #ElectoralCollege
Gore beat Bush in 2000, Clinton beat Trump in 2016. In the popular vote. The EC erased it
Well here's another reason for you to #vote in the #primaries and the general #election:
The #Democrats, if they win enough in November, can kill the EC
It's been a 20 year effort of states agreeing to void the EC if enough agree: the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (www.vox.com)
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There are many problems with #USA #democracy
Like the stupid #ElectoralCollege
Gore beat Bush in 2000, Clinton beat Trump in 2016. In the popular vote. The EC erased it
Well here's another reason for you to #vote in the #primaries and the general #election:
The #Democrats, if they win enough in November, can kill the EC
It's been a 20 year effort of states agreeing to void the EC if enough agree: the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (www.vox.com)
oops
the Vox article paywalled
here's the archive.org link to read it:
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (web.archive.org)
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oops
the Vox article paywalled
here's the archive.org link to read it:
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (web.archive.org)
wtf
they paywall code also shows up in the archive.org link
i don't know what to do
try reading this from 3 weeks ago instead. it's not the same juicy details, but it argues the same gist after Virginia got on board:
Virginia joins a national effort to ensure only popular vote winners become president
With Virginia on board, the National Popular Vote Compact is now enacted in states worth 222 electoral votes. Here's what that means.
NPR (www.npr.org)
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doesn't matter
there is only the good fight in this world. now and forever
imagining scenarios where we lose is defeatism, cynicism, weakness. it saps the will to fight
so we keep fighting
always
there's always setbacks
who cares
that's life
fight, fight, fight
and you know what happens if you keep fighting?
it get's easier
while not fighting makes the good struggle harder
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wtf
they paywall code also shows up in the archive.org link
i don't know what to do
try reading this from 3 weeks ago instead. it's not the same juicy details, but it argues the same gist after Virginia got on board:
Virginia joins a national effort to ensure only popular vote winners become president
With Virginia on board, the National Popular Vote Compact is now enacted in states worth 222 electoral votes. Here's what that means.
NPR (www.npr.org)
Here you go https://archive.is/xwSo3
And yeah, I know they have their fair share of controversy; still, there is no alternative to them yet. GhostArchive can't be used with Tor, and Mr. Krebs, the IT guy, also uses this, so…
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Here you go https://archive.is/xwSo3
And yeah, I know they have their fair share of controversy; still, there is no alternative to them yet. GhostArchive can't be used with Tor, and Mr. Krebs, the IT guy, also uses this, so…
Meh… -
yeah last time we interacted i forced you to unfollow me
nobody is interested in your debbie downer shit Grumble
at least your account is well named
otherwise fuck off with your defeatist shit
that's a you problem, not an us problem
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@benroyce My pleasure
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doesn't matter
there is only the good fight in this world. now and forever
imagining scenarios where we lose is defeatism, cynicism, weakness. it saps the will to fight
so we keep fighting
always
there's always setbacks
who cares
that's life
fight, fight, fight
and you know what happens if you keep fighting?
it get's easier
while not fighting makes the good struggle harder
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There are many problems with #USA #democracy
Like the stupid #ElectoralCollege
Gore beat Bush in 2000, Clinton beat Trump in 2016. In the popular vote. The EC erased it
Well here's another reason for you to #vote in the #primaries and the general #election:
The #Democrats, if they win enough in November, can kill the EC
It's been a 20 year effort of states agreeing to void the EC if enough agree: the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (www.vox.com)
@benroyce I support the NPVIC but I wouldn't say it *kills* the EC. It kills its most pernicious effect, and that's a good thing, but it's still a first-past-the-post system that allows candidates to win without a majority of the vote. It would have stopped Trump in 2016 but not 2024.
It might be the best we can do without a constitutional amendment (assuming it survives the courts), so I support it for that reason. It's a good first step but it's not the last one.
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"It would sure be nice if it happened, though"
if that is what you believe, then put that in your words
why bring negativity and cynicism in your words on politics?
ever hear of self-fulfilling prophecy?
if you really believe it would be nice if something good happened, *say* that, *work* for that
if you are authentic, you can do some good by accentuating the positive
otherwise you merely become a shadow of the well-known troll psyop angle to suppress the vote with defeatism
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@benroyce I support the NPVIC but I wouldn't say it *kills* the EC. It kills its most pernicious effect, and that's a good thing, but it's still a first-past-the-post system that allows candidates to win without a majority of the vote. It would have stopped Trump in 2016 but not 2024.
It might be the best we can do without a constitutional amendment (assuming it survives the courts), so I support it for that reason. It's a good first step but it's not the last one.
oh yeah. there is a lot more to clean up
FPTP. gerrymandering. voter disenfranchisement. etc
it's just a nice step
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do not center your thoughts on the DNC
this is an error in perspective
fuck the DNC
the DNC is not alien omnipotent creatures from Alpha Centauri
in fact, they are quite weak
so we vote. and replace them
stop centering your thoughts on the DNC. stop it. ignore them, they are fragile
when people just vote for the left candidate, in the primaries and the general, we do a DNC takeover
when people whine about the DNC, they wind up not voting, so the DNC stays in power
you dig?
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There are many problems with #USA #democracy
Like the stupid #ElectoralCollege
Gore beat Bush in 2000, Clinton beat Trump in 2016. In the popular vote. The EC erased it
Well here's another reason for you to #vote in the #primaries and the general #election:
The #Democrats, if they win enough in November, can kill the EC
It's been a 20 year effort of states agreeing to void the EC if enough agree: the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (www.vox.com)
I do believe it will fall eventaully. I would love to see it happen before I die.
It's antiquated and dated and rooted in voter suppression at this point.
And the reality is it would benefit both parties. Blue voters in Oklahoma and Red voters in California will finally feel like their vote actually matters.
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@benroyce I support the NPVIC but I wouldn't say it *kills* the EC. It kills its most pernicious effect, and that's a good thing, but it's still a first-past-the-post system that allows candidates to win without a majority of the vote. It would have stopped Trump in 2016 but not 2024.
It might be the best we can do without a constitutional amendment (assuming it survives the courts), so I support it for that reason. It's a good first step but it's not the last one.
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There are many problems with #USA #democracy
Like the stupid #ElectoralCollege
Gore beat Bush in 2000, Clinton beat Trump in 2016. In the popular vote. The EC erased it
Well here's another reason for you to #vote in the #primaries and the general #election:
The #Democrats, if they win enough in November, can kill the EC
It's been a 20 year effort of states agreeing to void the EC if enough agree: the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
A decades-long plan to abolish the Electoral College may finally pay off
A Democratic wave in 2026 could deliver the key remaining states needed for a popular vote system, under this proposal
Vox (www.vox.com)
@benroyce Whatever led you to believe these midterms will be free & fair in any way? My aren't you a trusting soul. Bought any bridges yet?
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@benroyce Whatever led you to believe these midterms will be free & fair in any way? My aren't you a trusting soul. Bought any bridges yet?
the votes are controlled by the states
red states may do some shit, but they're already red
cynicism isn't intelligence, in fact it's the weak easily pliable mind of willing submission to fascism
what you represent, my good friend, is willing acceptance of the unacceptable. that's all your cynicism means. that's what your cynicism leads to. that's the quality of your mind. a rather garden variety flavor of cognitive weakness, and rather boring of you
loser
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the votes are controlled by the states
red states may do some shit, but they're already red
cynicism isn't intelligence, in fact it's the weak easily pliable mind of willing submission to fascism
what you represent, my good friend, is willing acceptance of the unacceptable. that's all your cynicism means. that's what your cynicism leads to. that's the quality of your mind. a rather garden variety flavor of cognitive weakness, and rather boring of you
loser
@benroyce *sigh* No, Pollyanna. I'm just aware that a cult of personality is already actively looking to bend the election in every way they accused their rivals of since 2020. That they'll deploy the cambridge analytica 2.0 they used to bend the last election causing MILLIONS to sit out the vote on the midterms too.
Boss Tweeds playbook is back in town, and will curb stomp your california dreaming hippie ass if you presume any part of this upcoming election will be business as usual.
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@benroyce *sigh* No, Pollyanna. I'm just aware that a cult of personality is already actively looking to bend the election in every way they accused their rivals of since 2020. That they'll deploy the cambridge analytica 2.0 they used to bend the last election causing MILLIONS to sit out the vote on the midterms too.
Boss Tweeds playbook is back in town, and will curb stomp your california dreaming hippie ass if you presume any part of this upcoming election will be business as usual.
Jackass.
yes it is true reality looks like airhead optimism to a rotten pathetic cynic
but your real crime is just how boring and pedestrian you are
you're typical. a dime a dozen. just another garden variety specimen in the endless sea of midwit cynicism. you all think you have special insight. you're all just articulating the small confines of your dim craniums
very easy, very dull, and very irrelevant
