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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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    @mhoye https://hachyderm.io/@jimfl/116400594182117756

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      @mhoye But what does it mean for me, someone who still has to wrestle people away from using floats for money calculations?

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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        @mhoye this is incredible

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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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          @mhoye yes, I *did* check the date at the top of this one.

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          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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            @mhoye OMG, that's so cool.

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            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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              @mhoye
              Very comparable to SUBLEQ and similar single operation Instruction Sets.

              But in these days of machine learning hallucinations, I am a bit critical until an actual mathematician tells me it's correct...

              Sorry... 😐

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                @mhoye two-button RPN calculator when

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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                  @mhoye what the??!

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                  • kboyd@phpc.socialK kboyd@phpc.social

                    @mhoye But what does it mean for me, someone who still has to wrestle people away from using floats for money calculations?

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                    @kboyd @mhoye More trouble, most likely.

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                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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                      @mhoye I skim read it. I'm not totally sure if the solutions are proven exact from algebraic identitied or what. The prose parts feel like slop-- the author admits to this but... For instance I didn't see any derivation for sin(x).

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                      • meilin@tech.lgbtM meilin@tech.lgbt

                        @mhoye
                        Very comparable to SUBLEQ and similar single operation Instruction Sets.

                        But in these days of machine learning hallucinations, I am a bit critical until an actual mathematician tells me it's correct...

                        Sorry... 😐

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                        @MeiLin @mhoye Haha, exactly my reaction. I can't fully believe this until I see a Numberphile (or similar) video about it;)

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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                          @mhoye as someone who has not seen a mathematical calculator in over two decades: what can this do? Simplify CPU to only to one logic gate? I see that Andrzej (hey! Cracow!) talks about neural networks, but this gives even less understanding.

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                          • holdenweb@freeradical.zoneH holdenweb@freeradical.zone

                            @kboyd @mhoye More trouble, most likely.

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                            @holdenweb @mhoye True, true. But what about those minecraft people who build calculators and such - will it vastly simplify their lives?

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                            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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                              @mhoye I expected this to say 1975 or some shit but no it says 2026. Fucking WILD.

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                                @mhoye alt-text:

                                """
                                A single two-input gate suffices for all of Boolean logic in digital hardware. No comparable primitive has been known for continuous mathematics: computing elementary functions such as sin, cos, , and log has always required multiple distinct operations. Here we show that a single binary operator,

                                eml⁡(x,y)=exp⁡(x)−ln⁡(y),

                                together with the constant 1, generates the standard repertoire of a scientific calculator. This includes constants such as e, π, and i; arithmetic operations including +, −, ×, /, and exponentiation as well as the usual transcendental and algebraic functions. For example, ex=eml⁡(x,1), ln⁡x=eml⁡(1,eml⁡(eml⁡(1,x),1)), and likewise for all other operations. That such an operator exists was not anticipated; I found it [...]
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                                  @mhoye oh shit

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                                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

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                                    @mhoye this paper is a shitpost, right?

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                                    • psysal@mastodon.socialP psysal@mastodon.social

                                      @mhoye I skim read it. I'm not totally sure if the solutions are proven exact from algebraic identitied or what. The prose parts feel like slop-- the author admits to this but... For instance I didn't see any derivation for sin(x).

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                                      @PsySal @mhoye From Euler's formula, sin(x) = (exp(ix) - exp(-ix))/2i.

                                      So you first find formulas for subtraction, negation, multiplication, division, i, and 2, and then it's easy...

                                      I dunno. The paper strikes me as crank. But what do I know.

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                                        @mhoye can you please add an alt so we can retoot this mindblowing article? thank you! you can almost copy paste the abstract as the alt.

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                                        • meilin@tech.lgbtM meilin@tech.lgbt

                                          @mhoye
                                          Very comparable to SUBLEQ and similar single operation Instruction Sets.

                                          But in these days of machine learning hallucinations, I am a bit critical until an actual mathematician tells me it's correct...

                                          Sorry... 😐

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                                          @MeiLin @mhoye some of the formulas could be recalculated by hand.

                                          eg it's obvious that eml(x,1) is exp(x)

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