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  • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
    @Firefox for Web Developers That seems reasonable, however your update notes upon updating the browser do not visibly - or in an easibly understable way - contain this info, nor do they explain any caveats. So a lot of your - partly former - power users have given up on this. You will need to be more transparent on what these updates actually improve, especially on sensitive issues like AI, privacy etc.
    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jrp @firefoxwebdevs it's really a simple idea:

    Make these features opt-in. If you can't explain them to people convincingly enough for them to enable them, then you have no business in making them opt-out / on-by-default in the first place.

    You want to regain trust? That's how you regain trust.

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      @jrp @firefoxwebdevs it's really a simple idea:

      Make these features opt-in. If you can't explain them to people convincingly enough for them to enable them, then you have no business in making them opt-out / on-by-default in the first place.

      You want to regain trust? That's how you regain trust.

      jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12
      @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 +1 @Firefox for Web Developers
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      • megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social

        @rysiek

        "Modern AI Browser" - let's just make up more bullshit terms, shall we.

        eldersea@expressional.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @megatronicthronbanks
        Awfully Incompetent, easy peasy
        @rysiek

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          @jrp @firefoxwebdevs it's really a simple idea:

          Make these features opt-in. If you can't explain them to people convincingly enough for them to enable them, then you have no business in making them opt-out / on-by-default in the first place.

          You want to regain trust? That's how you regain trust.

          edcates@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @rysiek @jrp @firefoxwebdevs

          Yes. This. I switched to LibreWolf very shortly after they started forcing AI garbage on us, and have no interest in coming back unless (ideally) the nonsense goes away entirely or is switched to "opt-in."

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          • edcates@mastodon.socialE edcates@mastodon.social

            @rysiek @jrp @firefoxwebdevs

            Yes. This. I switched to LibreWolf very shortly after they started forcing AI garbage on us, and have no interest in coming back unless (ideally) the nonsense goes away entirely or is switched to "opt-in."

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            @rysiek @jrp @firefoxwebdevs

            But let's be real. By leaving as "opt-out" they can claim that users LOVE the new AI and point to how many people are "using" it, because lots of people won't go to the trouble of disabling it.

            It's a total circle-jerk, self-justification maneuver.

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            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/116002119945073671

              Good move. But too little too late, I'm already on LibreWolf.

              This is the first time I switched to a different browser as my daily driver since I switched to Firefox 1.0. And I did this specifically because all the shady "AI" stuff Mozilla keeps insisting on doing.

              In the words of Mozilla's CEO:
              > Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.
              https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next-chapter-anthony-enzor-demeo-new-ceo/

              Do not want.

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              #16

              @rysiek
              Michal, are there Firefox extensions that are compatible with LibreWolf?
              For example, I use the tab management app OneTab, and would like to be able to continue using it -- or an alternative -- should I switch to LibreWolf.
              I hope you'll be able to tell me that most addons created for Firefox also work in Librewolf, and I'll be off to the races.
              #Browsers #Firefox #LibreWolf

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                #17

                @65_percenter @rysiek
                Thank YOU, 65%, you have made my libre day!

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                • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

                  @rysiek
                  Michal, are there Firefox extensions that are compatible with LibreWolf?
                  For example, I use the tab management app OneTab, and would like to be able to continue using it -- or an alternative -- should I switch to LibreWolf.
                  I hope you'll be able to tell me that most addons created for Firefox also work in Librewolf, and I'll be off to the races.
                  #Browsers #Firefox #LibreWolf

                  andi@snac.sonnenmulde.atA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18
                  Probalby all will work, it's still Firefox. But of course I have not tested every single one of them.

                  CC: @rysiek@mstdn.social
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                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/116002119945073671

                    Good move. But too little too late, I'm already on LibreWolf.

                    This is the first time I switched to a different browser as my daily driver since I switched to Firefox 1.0. And I did this specifically because all the shady "AI" stuff Mozilla keeps insisting on doing.

                    In the words of Mozilla's CEO:
                    > Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.
                    https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next-chapter-anthony-enzor-demeo-new-ceo/

                    Do not want.

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                    #19

                    @rysiek I don't want AI, all I wanted was FirefoxOS updates 😞

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                    • speaktrap@mastodon.com.plS speaktrap@mastodon.com.pl

                      @rysiek I don't want AI, all I wanted was FirefoxOS updates 😞

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                      #20

                      @speaktrap @rysiek najlepszy system ever!

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                      • andi@snac.sonnenmulde.atA andi@snac.sonnenmulde.at
                        Probalby all will work, it's still Firefox. But of course I have not tested every single one of them.

                        CC: @rysiek@mstdn.social
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                        #21

                        @andi
                        Greatly appreciate your response.
                        Thank YOU, Andi!

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                        • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

                          @rysiek
                          Michal, are there Firefox extensions that are compatible with LibreWolf?
                          For example, I use the tab management app OneTab, and would like to be able to continue using it -- or an alternative -- should I switch to LibreWolf.
                          I hope you'll be able to tell me that most addons created for Firefox also work in Librewolf, and I'll be off to the races.
                          #Browsers #Firefox #LibreWolf

                          sertonix@social.treehouse.systemsS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Guillotine_Jones @rysiek

                          Most if not all should work

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                          • sertonix@social.treehouse.systemsS sertonix@social.treehouse.systems

                            @Guillotine_Jones @rysiek

                            Most if not all should work

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                            @sertonix
                            That's ALL I need to know, Sertonix, thank YOU!

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                              #24

                              @mkljczk this is an account primarily about web platform features, aimed at developers, so I don't have that explanation to give you.

                              I haven't _personally_ found the AI sidebar useful, but I don't personally use bookmarks either.

                              I've played with agentic browsing, but I wouldn't let it run in my main profile until I had more confidence in the security.

                              Others' mileage may vary etc etc.

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