OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
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They even have *vegan* options, just without the v-word.
Plant-Based Protein Survival Food Kit | 4Patriots
Prepare for any crisis with the Plant-Based Protein Survival Kit. Get 64 delicious, plant-based meals, packed with 776g of protein, designed to last up to 25 years.
(4patriots.com)
@dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @blogdiva@mastodon.social @licho@kolektiva.social I've long been a supporter of the fact that we should accept that the world makes no sense, and we should try to make even less sense if we want to see it steered on a decent path. So we should use any belief in making things better.
There was a post I read a billion years ago on tumblr of a person sending "fake" horoscopes to their friends to convince them to go to therapy: stuff like that is great. -
@ahltorp My solar system is grid tied and no use without utility power, although if I get a battery to go with it that will change and I'll be able to run off grid in a pinch supplementing with generator.
My current plan is... for brief blips in power the UPS handles things for the computers, nothing else cares.
For longer duration (30 minutes to maybe one day) outages I fire up the generator to keep everything running so I can work, not lose open documents, and remain fully productive. The only things that degrade in this state are the heat pump, water heater, and oven - all of which use too much power to run on generator.
If I anticipate the outage being multiple days in length (i.e. it's the result of a large scale disaster not a random storm or tree on a power line), we're no longer in "business as usual" mode.
In that case priority #1 is to shut down all of the tech as quickly as possible to keep the batteries charged for later.
Then go dark but set up the generator. A few times a day, fire it up to cool down the fridge and run the microwave or toaster oven or something to eat as much perishable food as we can (charging phones etc at the same time), then shut it off and keep the fridge closed to stretch our limited fuel supply as long as possible.
When we run out of generator fuel or fresh food, switch to shelf stable stuff.
For me, biggest (in every way) issue, and one that you have mentioned, is water. We have a water based system. Consumption, cooking, hygiene, medical care all uses copious amounts of water, even if you’re trying to be careful. If you have 4 humans in a property you will likely use 25L of clean water for consumption and personal care alone per day. That doesn’t include toilets, anything other than a military wash and so forth. I have some bottled water stored for drinking only but to carry a week of water is hundreds of litres. And where we live is water on demand driven by the utilities electric pumps so we often get issues when the power fails.
I’ve seen some very clever and basic systems but can’t implement them due to the property.
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Fossil fuels make you gay.
@billyjoebowers @blogdiva
"oh, so you choose a lifestyle where you don't even have freedom of movement without constantly depending on big strong manly oil-rig workers?" -
@gatesvp @blogdiva @Nicovel0 I have the same reaction when right-wing conservative types are anti-cycling.
Cycling ticks so many preppers' boxes:
• No government paperwork
• No surveillance
• No big corp lock-in
• Use your own power (literally 'stand on your own two feet’)
• No reliance on foreign oil
• It is the number one freedom tool.@baoigheallain @gatesvp @blogdiva I think that for many of those things their main concern is that they are not macho enough.
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@gatesvp @blogdiva But the part they miss is that 99.9% of the time, going solo isn't the way to do it.
The most likely scenario is that a town or neighborhood will have most or all paths in and out cut off, and some or all utilities out of service for an extended period of time.
So what you need to do is address any imminent life threats (put out fires, evacuate unstable structures, rescue people trapped under debris) to the extent possible, then get together with neighbors (ideally not meeting them for the first time) and make a plan to deal with whatever is happening right where you are, because you're all you've got.
The three fire stations in my city of 13000 are not sending anyone to my tiny street when the big one hits regardless of how bad the damage is or how many injuries there are. There's too many of us and not enough of them.
@azonenberg @gatesvp @blogdiva
Absolutely.
Humanity has gotten to where we are by cooperation in and between matriarchal groups for 98%* of our existence. Our sole basis for success is harnessing non-zero sum outcomes.
Yet here we are, in the last (hopefully not final) 2%* of the time of our existence on earth, where a bunch of arseholes show up, literally rape, pillage, murder destroying everything we’ve learned and build over 100.000s of years, while embracing the “top predator/ lone wolf” trope.
I wish everybody with their “I’ve got mine” to go live in some bunker. It will neatly serve as a tomb.
*) Patriarchy as dominant societal structure for about 7000 years, Homo sapiens (and others) living in matriarchal egalitarian societies for at least 300.000.
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
@blogdiva The comments on here are awesome!
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
@blogdiva not a goddamn one of them has ever "generated" any portion of a Sun.
They do provide gainful employment for scruffy right-wing dudebros, so they don't have to be an unemployed roofer or the backhoe operator who cuts a critical fiber connection somewhere in Loudoun County, Virginia, though.
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@gatesvp @blogdiva @Nicovel0 I have the same reaction when right-wing conservative types are anti-cycling.
Cycling ticks so many preppers' boxes:
• No government paperwork
• No surveillance
• No big corp lock-in
• Use your own power (literally 'stand on your own two feet’)
• No reliance on foreign oil
• It is the number one freedom tool.@baoigheallain the preferred transport by a communist “enemy” decades ago (look up Ho Chi Minh Trail). Before the Russian influence on current politics in the US, anything to do with communism was enough to push conservatives miles away…
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For me, biggest (in every way) issue, and one that you have mentioned, is water. We have a water based system. Consumption, cooking, hygiene, medical care all uses copious amounts of water, even if you’re trying to be careful. If you have 4 humans in a property you will likely use 25L of clean water for consumption and personal care alone per day. That doesn’t include toilets, anything other than a military wash and so forth. I have some bottled water stored for drinking only but to carry a week of water is hundreds of litres. And where we live is water on demand driven by the utilities electric pumps so we often get issues when the power fails.
I’ve seen some very clever and basic systems but can’t implement them due to the property.
@tempusfelix Water is why I don't understand having dried foods as one's Prep. They need both fuel and water to make them edible. Canned things which are safe to eat cold are safer, and contain some fluid of their own, which reduces the strain on the water hoard.
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
@blogdiva more of this please.
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
@blogdiva We need more of this.
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
@blogdiva American Eagle Tactical panels: punch the power companies with an iron fist!
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@tempusfelix Water is why I don't understand having dried foods as one's Prep. They need both fuel and water to make them edible. Canned things which are safe to eat cold are safer, and contain some fluid of their own, which reduces the strain on the water hoard.
In my experience, the dried foods are only suitable for hiking where you can filter the water but don’t want to carry the weight. But, because a lot of the prep community come from a .mil background they have that mentality and the logistics guys sort out water.
Canned food always worked in the past, tastes a lot better and as you say, don’t need extra fluid to make them palatable.
Edit to add a story.
I was part of the training and medical staff on a week long mil exercise. As I was staff I had privileges which meant I could put a couple of crates in the logistics system for comfort rather than having to carry everything in my Bergen (rucksack). And as well as my kit needed for the role, mine did indeed include some tinned food (soups), homemade bread, an energy cake and a camp bed. The rationale being that as staff we needed to be in better condition to keep everyone else safe. Suffice to say my dinners of ration packs supplemented with bread were envied. After a while those things get boring fast and mess up your gut.
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In my experience, the dried foods are only suitable for hiking where you can filter the water but don’t want to carry the weight. But, because a lot of the prep community come from a .mil background they have that mentality and the logistics guys sort out water.
Canned food always worked in the past, tastes a lot better and as you say, don’t need extra fluid to make them palatable.
Edit to add a story.
I was part of the training and medical staff on a week long mil exercise. As I was staff I had privileges which meant I could put a couple of crates in the logistics system for comfort rather than having to carry everything in my Bergen (rucksack). And as well as my kit needed for the role, mine did indeed include some tinned food (soups), homemade bread, an energy cake and a camp bed. The rationale being that as staff we needed to be in better condition to keep everyone else safe. Suffice to say my dinners of ration packs supplemented with bread were envied. After a while those things get boring fast and mess up your gut.
@tempusfelix I do wonder what these people will do about sewerage.
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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.
i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.
it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing
Oh no, I definitely hope conservatives don't own me by powering their homes with solar. Would be so humiliating for me as a leftists if they bought EVs too.
Stop...please...don't do it...
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For me, biggest (in every way) issue, and one that you have mentioned, is water. We have a water based system. Consumption, cooking, hygiene, medical care all uses copious amounts of water, even if you’re trying to be careful. If you have 4 humans in a property you will likely use 25L of clean water for consumption and personal care alone per day. That doesn’t include toilets, anything other than a military wash and so forth. I have some bottled water stored for drinking only but to carry a week of water is hundreds of litres. And where we live is water on demand driven by the utilities electric pumps so we often get issues when the power fails.
I’ve seen some very clever and basic systems but can’t implement them due to the property.
@tempusfelix @azonenberg @ahltorp The MRP and LRP meals are dried, even things that are liquid are so heavily extracted that you need to drink a lot of water if you consume them. C-Rats were a bit better because they had things actually in cans. But they also contained some dehydrated food products. I specifically remember the beef patty. It looked vaguely like a burger, but if you couldn't rehydrate it and had to just eat it dry, it was a dog biscuit. If you've stored dehydrated foods and you haven't stored a water processing unit, you're just fooling yourself.
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Oh no, I definitely hope conservatives don't own me by powering their homes with solar. Would be so humiliating for me as a leftists if they bought EVs too.
Stop...please...don't do it...
@contrasocial you… YOU… i like you
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@dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @blogdiva@mastodon.social @licho@kolektiva.social I've long been a supporter of the fact that we should accept that the world makes no sense, and we should try to make even less sense if we want to see it steered on a decent path. So we should use any belief in making things better.
There was a post I read a billion years ago on tumblr of a person sending "fake" horoscopes to their friends to convince them to go to therapy: stuff like that is great.@bovaz @dzwiedziu @blogdiva @licho
Chaotic Good. I can dig it.
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@tempusfelix I do wonder what these people will do about sewerage.
Ah yes. The forgotten end of the cycle. Where the waste goes! We spent centuries figuring out how to deal with that. A hole in the ground simply doesn’t work long term.
