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  3. I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients.

I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients.

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  • oliviavespera@spacey.spaceO oliviavespera@spacey.space

    @PepperTheVixen @WeirdWriter Just going through Signal video on it. Udbhav Tiwari directly names NVDA as one of the legitimate services that this flag in siganl breaks. Here's the timestamp video where he talks about it directly. He could be wrong on it.

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    @OliviaVespera Hmm... okay now I need to do some testing on this. I might not be using the specific features that break with that option

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    • pepperthevixen@meow.socialP pepperthevixen@meow.social

      @OliviaVespera Hmm... okay now I need to do some testing on this. I might not be using the specific features that break with that option

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      @PepperTheVixen I don't suppose you're on linux?

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      • oliviavespera@spacey.spaceO oliviavespera@spacey.space

        @PepperTheVixen I don't suppose you're on linux?

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        @OliviaVespera I'm not, but I can spin up a VM without too much trouble

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        • pepperthevixen@meow.socialP pepperthevixen@meow.social

          @OliviaVespera I'm not, but I can spin up a VM without too much trouble

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          @PepperTheVixen No it's okay, I'm on linux. They haven't rolled out this setting on linux's version of Signal... and I'm not sure. does NVDA work on linux? I am sighted.

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          • oliviavespera@spacey.spaceO oliviavespera@spacey.space

            @PepperTheVixen No it's okay, I'm on linux. They haven't rolled out this setting on linux's version of Signal... and I'm not sure. does NVDA work on linux? I am sighted.

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            @OliviaVespera Sadly no. Linux has Speakup on the command line and Orca on the desktop. Orca is in rough shape and needs a lot of work on the package itself and the accessibility APIs it hooks into

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            • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

              @PepperTheVixen Thank you so much! I bookmarked this!

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              @WeirdWriter @PepperTheVixen In general, it would be really nice if @signalapp could have better accessibility support.

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              • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients. The mobile clients work far better for me, but I honestly don't use my phone for much these days outside of being a media player that can make phone calls, so, as of right now, I'd recommend Delta Chat instead https://delta.chat/en/ #DeltaChat

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                @WeirdWriter

                @signalapp important feedback here!

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                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                  I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients. The mobile clients work far better for me, but I honestly don't use my phone for much these days outside of being a media player that can make phone calls, so, as of right now, I'd recommend Delta Chat instead https://delta.chat/en/ #DeltaChat

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                  @WeirdWriter ask the devs to fix it, give them all the issues they're really receptive to feedback.

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                  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                    I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients. The mobile clients work far better for me, but I honestly don't use my phone for much these days outside of being a media player that can make phone calls, so, as of right now, I'd recommend Delta Chat instead https://delta.chat/en/ #DeltaChat

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                    @clv1 @WeirdWriter I tried Delta a few years ago and found hte desktop client very unimpressive and the mobile clients had real access issues around voice messages. Have these things been bettered?

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                    • nick@hkc.socialN nick@hkc.social

                      @clv1 @WeirdWriter I tried Delta a few years ago and found hte desktop client very unimpressive and the mobile clients had real access issues around voice messages. Have these things been bettered?

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                      @nick @WeirdWriter I don't know about mobile; on desktop, I wouldn't call it most productive, but accessible and usable yes.

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                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                        I know #Signal is very popular, but at least for me, using NVDA, the desktop client is far less screen reader friendly than the mobile clients. The mobile clients work far better for me, but I honestly don't use my phone for much these days outside of being a media player that can make phone calls, so, as of right now, I'd recommend Delta Chat instead https://delta.chat/en/ #DeltaChat

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                        @WeirdWriter in my case i recommend delta, because unlike #signal, it's not gatekeeped by 3 monopolistic hyperscaler server that all cave to US command.

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                          @WeirdWriter @PepperTheVixen In general, it would be really nice if @signalapp could have better accessibility support.

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                          @bdorer @WeirdWriter @signalapp I agree. It's overall pretty good, but some parts could use improvement. I'd like the multiline edit field to play nicer with NVDA, the search field to be less frustrating, and I really wish they could make NVDA stop reading out timestamps every few minutes. That said, the interface is very navigable. Mayhaps I should write a guide for it once I wrap up the Discord guide...

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                            @bdorer @WeirdWriter @signalapp I agree. It's overall pretty good, but some parts could use improvement. I'd like the multiline edit field to play nicer with NVDA, the search field to be less frustrating, and I really wish they could make NVDA stop reading out timestamps every few minutes. That said, the interface is very navigable. Mayhaps I should write a guide for it once I wrap up the Discord guide...

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                            @PepperTheVixen @bdorer @signalapp Wait where is your discord guide?

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                            • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                              @PepperTheVixen @bdorer @signalapp Wait where is your discord guide?

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                              @WeirdWriter Right here! It's a work in progress. It's intended for someone who knows NVDA well but maybe struggles with wrapping their head around the rather complex structure of the discord app. This link will take you to the branch with the most up-to-date content https://github.com/PepperTheVixen/Discord-With-NVDA/tree/rework

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