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  • prab97@toot.techbeat.inP prab97@toot.techbeat.in

    @thomasfuchs Brave and Vivaldi are a breath of fresh air, although built on chromium.

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    @prab97 Just FYI Brave is run by a homophobic religious fanatic backed with money from Peter Thiel.

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      About the Chrome LLM thing:

      Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

      Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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      @thomasfuchs

      ditto for apple.

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      • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

        @thomasfuchs

        ditto for apple.

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        @Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

          @prab97 Just FYI Brave is run by a homophobic religious fanatic backed with money from Peter Thiel.

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          @thomasfuchs @prab97 And Vivaldi is still not open-sourcing their browser, so who knows what might they slip in the future without the end users knowing it. If you absolutely must use something based on the Chromium engine, use Ungoogled Chromium or an equivalent.
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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            @Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.

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            @thomasfuchs @Felis_Catus_Domesticus They do have their points of criticism (the closed platform, the overinflated prices, the low repairability, and the fact that they constantly bow down to governments like China and the UK), but curiously enough, they're among the few phone manufacturers to take data privacy somewhat seriously.
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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              @Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.

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              @thomasfuchs @Felis_Catus_Domesticus Not only does Apple forbid any non-webkit browser engine on their walled platform and refuse to implement core web APIs on webkit for as long as possible, it's hostile to the rest of the open web even outside iOS: https://infrequently.org/2025/09/apples-crimes-against-the-internet-community/

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              • minotaurs_at_work@mastodon.socialM minotaurs_at_work@mastodon.social

                @thomasfuchs @Felis_Catus_Domesticus Not only does Apple forbid any non-webkit browser engine on their walled platform and refuse to implement core web APIs on webkit for as long as possible, it's hostile to the rest of the open web even outside iOS: https://infrequently.org/2025/09/apples-crimes-against-the-internet-community/

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                @minotaurs_at_work @thomasfuchs

                all apple fanbois talk like the OP..

                hard to say which, over the long term has harmed innovation more since the 1970's.. apple or microsoft.

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  About the Chrome LLM thing:

                  Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                  Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                  @thomasfuchs I'm using FireFox and shall continue as it's a lesser evil. I flipped the AI switch off, and also used the JustTheBrowser script to lock it out completely.

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    About the Chrome LLM thing:

                    Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                    Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                    @thomasfuchs

                    🎯

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      About the Chrome LLM thing:

                      Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                      Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                      @thomasfuchs People wanted Chrome now Chrome people can deal with the consequences, its not like we haven't been warning them for almost two decades. Same with subscription software

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        @Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.

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                        @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @Felis_Catus_Domesticus@mstdn.party Oh no, poor walled garden tech megacorp.

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          About the Chrome LLM thing:

                          Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                          Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                          @thomasfuchs

                          @EUCommission

                          I doubt that installing a 4 GB proprietary LLM secretly and without any consent can be legal in the #EU - even if Donald wants it to be (!)

                          While I advised you on DMS/DSA in "federating systems", I wrote tons of informal complaints and nothing happened but I do not have time to write these things formal cause meanwhile they are Captain Obvious !

                          Ich danke sie.

                          #google #evil #llm #chrome #evil
                          FYI @paul_irish @rachelandrew
                          @Una
                          ENOUGH!

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                          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                            About the Chrome LLM thing:

                            Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                            Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                            @thomasfuchs expropiemos GoogleMaps

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                            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                              About the Chrome LLM thing:

                              Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                              Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                              @thomasfuchs I can't disagree, but every time someone comes up with an alt browser, it turns out that the project is run by a complete fuckhead, isn't what it says it is, eventually has AI shoved into it or it has its own data collection for potentially unsavoury purposes.

                              What browser can I acutally use that isn't somewhow mired in BS?

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                              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                @prab97 Just FYI Brave is run by a homophobic religious fanatic backed with money from Peter Thiel.

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                                @thomasfuchs @prab97 does this not describe the political moment we find ourselves in, generally?

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                                • digitalstefan@fosstodon.orgD digitalstefan@fosstodon.org

                                  @thomasfuchs I can't disagree, but every time someone comes up with an alt browser, it turns out that the project is run by a complete fuckhead, isn't what it says it is, eventually has AI shoved into it or it has its own data collection for potentially unsavoury purposes.

                                  What browser can I acutally use that isn't somewhow mired in BS?

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                                  @digitalstefan @thomasfuchs #badwolf

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                                  • jenesaisquoidirehelp@framapiaf.orgJ jenesaisquoidirehelp@framapiaf.org

                                    @digitalstefan @thomasfuchs #badwolf

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                                    @jenesaisquoidirehelp @thomasfuchs Being technically correct is the best type of correct, but how do I install that on my Mac or my Windows PC? Fairly sure I can install it on my Linux laptop, but that's not my daily driver.

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      About the Chrome LLM thing:

                                      Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                                      Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                                      @thomasfuchs Just don't use chrome, the data vacuum cleaner.

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                                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                        About the Chrome LLM thing:

                                        Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                                        Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                                        @thomasfuchs Check these out:
                                        https://european-alternatives.eu

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                                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                          About the Chrome LLM thing:

                                          Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.

                                          Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.

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                                          @thomasfuchs I'm a happy user of Kagi search. For so many people, getting away from the G monster's search is an easy and effective first step.

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