About the Chrome LLM thing:
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@Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.
@thomasfuchs @Felis_Catus_Domesticus Not only does Apple forbid any non-webkit browser engine on their walled platform and refuse to implement core web APIs on webkit for as long as possible, it's hostile to the rest of the open web even outside iOS: https://infrequently.org/2025/09/apples-crimes-against-the-internet-community/
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@thomasfuchs @Felis_Catus_Domesticus Not only does Apple forbid any non-webkit browser engine on their walled platform and refuse to implement core web APIs on webkit for as long as possible, it's hostile to the rest of the open web even outside iOS: https://infrequently.org/2025/09/apples-crimes-against-the-internet-community/
@minotaurs_at_work @thomasfuchs
all apple fanbois talk like the OP..
hard to say which, over the long term has harmed innovation more since the 1970's.. apple or microsoft.

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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs I'm using FireFox and shall continue as it's a lesser evil. I flipped the AI switch off, and also used the JustTheBrowser script to lock it out completely.
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs People wanted Chrome now Chrome people can deal with the consequences, its not like we haven't been warning them for almost two decades. Same with subscription software
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@Felis_Catus_Domesticus No, it's not. Fuck off with the Apple bashing when it's simply not true.
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @Felis_Catus_Domesticus@mstdn.party Oh no, poor walled garden tech megacorp.
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
I doubt that installing a 4 GB proprietary LLM secretly and without any consent can be legal in the #EU - even if Donald wants it to be (!)
While I advised you on DMS/DSA in "federating systems", I wrote tons of informal complaints and nothing happened but I do not have time to write these things formal cause meanwhile they are Captain Obvious !Ich danke sie.
#google #evil #llm #chrome #evil
FYI @paul_irish @rachelandrew
@Una
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs expropiemos GoogleMaps
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs I can't disagree, but every time someone comes up with an alt browser, it turns out that the project is run by a complete fuckhead, isn't what it says it is, eventually has AI shoved into it or it has its own data collection for potentially unsavoury purposes.
What browser can I acutally use that isn't somewhow mired in BS?
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@prab97 Just FYI Brave is run by a homophobic religious fanatic backed with money from Peter Thiel.
@thomasfuchs @prab97 does this not describe the political moment we find ourselves in, generally?
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@thomasfuchs I can't disagree, but every time someone comes up with an alt browser, it turns out that the project is run by a complete fuckhead, isn't what it says it is, eventually has AI shoved into it or it has its own data collection for potentially unsavoury purposes.
What browser can I acutally use that isn't somewhow mired in BS?
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@jenesaisquoidirehelp @thomasfuchs Being technically correct is the best type of correct, but how do I install that on my Mac or my Windows PC? Fairly sure I can install it on my Linux laptop, but that's not my daily driver.
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs Just don't use chrome, the data vacuum cleaner.
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About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs Check these out:
https://european-alternatives.eu -
About the Chrome LLM thing:
Google has been working for 15 years now (maybe longer) on dismantling the Internet that you love and cherish.
Fuck them. Don't use their stuff. It's toxic. All of it.
@thomasfuchs I'm a happy user of Kagi search. For so many people, getting away from the G monster's search is an easy and effective first step.
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@thomasfuchs I can't disagree, but every time someone comes up with an alt browser, it turns out that the project is run by a complete fuckhead, isn't what it says it is, eventually has AI shoved into it or it has its own data collection for potentially unsavoury purposes.
What browser can I acutally use that isn't somewhow mired in BS?
@digitalstefan @thomasfuchs
Vivaldi -
(Inb4, yes alternatives have existed. The most famous being an attempt to make a phone version of Ubuntu. I argue not that they didn't exist, but that they were never very serious. Effort was put in, but only a little and then each such thing has been more or less dropped because everyone decided Android was good enough and the problems in adapting anything else weren't worth the effort to get around.)
I guess I should say the biggest issue of all is proprietariness effectively owns the "smart" device markets.
In all this time everyone should have been working hard to break open those locked down ecosystems, but instead very little has ever truly been done. SoC manufacturers lock everything behind NDAs, service providers lock functions behind paid licenses, etc etc. It's a mess.
@nazokiyoubinbou When iOS was introduced we had BlackBerry OS, MeeGo, and Tizen all were incredibly popular Ubuntu touch didn't come around until the duopoly had been established.
My BB 8830 world is probably my favorite cell phone and I've had one since 1992 or so
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