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Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

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  • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

    @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox

    Looking for feedback from as many projects that decline to use #AI as possible.

    @FreeBSDFoundation
    @tulilirockz
    @sharkey@sharkey.team
    @Sharkey@shonk.social

    Who else?

    #NoAI #EthicalSoftware #FreeBSD #Zirconium #Sharkey

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    @mastodonmigration Ah yes, the browsers, thanks to the #Zirconium discord for reminding me!

    @zenbrowser
    @Waterfox

    Any others?

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    • carl_gylling@mastodon.nuC carl_gylling@mastodon.nu

      @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox
      Something like this?

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      @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox ...or perhaps other colors would be better. Anyone may take the idea and improve it

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        @charlesrocket

        At least initially it seems like it would have to be self attestation.

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        • mschfr@mastodon.socialM mschfr@mastodon.social

          @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox I feel that there needs to be some definition what that should even mean? Not developed with help of some kind of AI tool? No AI features for endusers? No machine learning features anywhere in the software?

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          @mschfr

          Good points!

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          • reflex@retrogaming.socialR reflex@retrogaming.social

            @mastodonmigration Ah yes, the browsers, thanks to the #Zirconium discord for reminding me!

            @zenbrowser
            @Waterfox

            Any others?

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            #11

            @reflex Yes - @Vivaldi ! 🙌

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            • elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE elduvelle@neuromatch.social

              @reflex Yes - @Vivaldi ! 🙌

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              #12

              @elduvelle @Vivaldi Does #Vivaldi use AI tools to generate any of it's code, tools, or anything else? What is the corporate policy? Unfortunately your code is not fully open so we cannot examine it directly, but I'd like to know the policy at least.

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                Thoughts? Ideas?

                #AI

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                @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox
                I fancy "LLM-free" or "100% human", or a combination of the two.

                Roops

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                  A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                  Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                  What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                  So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                  Thoughts? Ideas?

                  #AI

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                  @mastodonmigration
                  Or how about a hand?
                  * it's a stop sign
                  * people use hands to make things
                  * people can draw hands; ai for a long time couldn't, as we all know

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                  • carl_gylling@mastodon.nuC carl_gylling@mastodon.nu

                    @mastodonmigration
                    Or how about a hand?
                    * it's a stop sign
                    * people use hands to make things
                    * people can draw hands; ai for a long time couldn't, as we all know

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                    @Carl_Gylling

                    Honestly kind of shy away from using 'slop' in this context. It is an incendiary term and tends to incite a fight. IMO what is better is something more positive or at least neutral that allows for organizing around the practice of keeping code bases free of LLM generated content.

                    That said SLOP is certainly a good term to use when criticizing slop.

                    Thanks for your contribution!

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                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                      Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                      A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                      Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                      What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                      So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                      Thoughts? Ideas?

                      #AI

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                      @mastodonmigration

                      I like the sound of "Not By AI".

                      The LLM ones seem too specific because wouldn't that leave out image generation?

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                      • carl_gylling@mastodon.nuC carl_gylling@mastodon.nu

                        @mastodonmigration
                        Or how about a hand?
                        * it's a stop sign
                        * people use hands to make things
                        * people can draw hands; ai for a long time couldn't, as we all know

                        Link Preview Image
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                        @Carl_Gylling @mastodonmigration I've seen several indie authors label their books "human authored".

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                        • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                          @Carl_Gylling @mastodonmigration I've seen several indie authors label their books "human authored".

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                          @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                          Like that! Perhaps also "human coded" "human generated" "genHuman" or "human built"

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                            Like that! Perhaps also "human coded" "human generated" "genHuman" or "human built"

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                            @mastodonmigration @Carl_Gylling "built/coded with natural intelligence"?

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                            • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                              @mastodonmigration @Carl_Gylling "built/coded with natural intelligence"?

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                              @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                              That's good... Liking this brain storming session

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                              • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                                @Carl_Gylling @mastodonmigration I've seen several indie authors label their books "human authored".

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                                @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling @mastodonmigration Might use "ante mortem" as well, since slop does not even need the monkeys.

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                                • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                                  @mastodonmigration @Carl_Gylling "built/coded with natural intelligence"?

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                                  @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                  "Human Intelligence" "HI" "100% HI"

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                                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                    Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                                    A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                                    Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                                    What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                                    So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                                    Thoughts? Ideas?

                                    #AI

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                                    First rule of brainstorming is that there are no bad ideas, and the second rule is no disparaging anyone's contributions.

                                    If you read down here you may find suggestions that are half formed, but may lead your thoughts in a new direction. That's the process. We are all friends here. Let's noodle this one together.

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                                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                      @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                      Like that! Perhaps also "human coded" "human generated" "genHuman" or "human built"

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                                      @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                      "Gen H" "Gen H Code" "100% Gen H"

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                        "Gen H" "Gen H Code" "100% Gen H"

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                                        @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                        "Human Made" "Made By Humans"

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                                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                          Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                                          A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                                          Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                                          What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                                          So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                                          Thoughts? Ideas?

                                          #AI

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                                          @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox

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