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  3. Škoda have invented a bike bell designed to penetrate noise cancelling headphones, with the goal of reducing cyclist/pedestrian collisions, and then *released the design for free* so anyone can make it and more people can be kept safe!

Škoda have invented a bike bell designed to penetrate noise cancelling headphones, with the goal of reducing cyclist/pedestrian collisions, and then *released the design for free* so anyone can make it and more people can be kept safe!

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  • joncounts@mastodon.nzJ joncounts@mastodon.nz

    @SimonCHulse Clever concept. Shared paths and noise cancelling headphones is an awkward mix. I wonder how well it works?

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    @joncounts if you watch the video they tested it in London by giving it to gig workers on bikes doing deliveries and it does apparently work.

    It’s certainly a problem I’ve experienced a bunch of times since shared paths started becoming more common in my area.

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    • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

      @joncounts
      Probably not half as well as separated paths @SimonCHulse

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      @RedRobyn @joncounts no, but shared paths are going to get built much more often than routes with double grade separation for cars/cyclists/walkers each on their own level.

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      • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

        @RedRobyn @joncounts no, but shared paths are going to get built much more often than routes with double grade separation for cars/cyclists/walkers each on their own level.

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        @SimonCHulse
        And I'm very much afraid they are going to be created rather than built.
        By simply legislating for riding on existing footpaths and thus abdicating responsibility for any other cycling safety projects
        @joncounts

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        • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

          @SimonCHulse
          And I'm very much afraid they are going to be created rather than built.
          By simply legislating for riding on existing footpaths and thus abdicating responsibility for any other cycling safety projects
          @joncounts

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          @RedRobyn @SimonCHulse @joncounts there are actually a lot of "multi-use paths" in Waterloo (and Kitchener) in Ontario. Usually they are indeed wider than the preexisting sidewalks (footpaths) at least. And they have different markings from a sidewalk. Still not as good as dedicated infrastructure but better than a sharrow.

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          • va2lam@mastodon.nzV va2lam@mastodon.nz

            @RedRobyn @SimonCHulse @joncounts there are actually a lot of "multi-use paths" in Waterloo (and Kitchener) in Ontario. Usually they are indeed wider than the preexisting sidewalks (footpaths) at least. And they have different markings from a sidewalk. Still not as good as dedicated infrastructure but better than a sharrow.

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            @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts our new Te Ara Tupua cycleway in Wellington has pedestrian and cyclist lanes with raised paint markers that you can feel when biking if you roll over them.

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            • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

              @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts our new Te Ara Tupua cycleway in Wellington has pedestrian and cyclist lanes with raised paint markers that you can feel when biking if you roll over them.

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              @SimonCHulse
              Having difficulty restraining jealousy
              @va2lam @joncounts

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              • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

                @SimonCHulse
                Having difficulty restraining jealousy
                @va2lam @joncounts

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                @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts come visit and hire a bike to come ride it!

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                • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                  @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts come visit and hire a bike to come ride it!

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                  @SimonCHulse
                  Shortage of ferries to get there on
                  @va2lam @joncounts

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                  • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                    @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts come visit and hire a bike to come ride it!

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                    @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts it’s amazing- we had a team of Dutch consultants work on it because it’s both of the things they’re good at—controlling water AND cycling.

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                    • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                      @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts it’s amazing- we had a team of Dutch consultants work on it because it’s both of the things they’re good at—controlling water AND cycling.

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                      @SimonCHulse
                      Ours had both WK/NZTA and Kiwirail getting involved in the design. I question some of the decisions
                      @va2lam @joncounts

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                      • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

                        @SimonCHulse
                        Ours had both WK/NZTA and Kiwirail getting involved in the design. I question some of the decisions
                        @va2lam @joncounts

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                        @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts which one are you referring to?

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                        • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                          @RedRobyn @va2lam @joncounts come visit and hire a bike to come ride it!

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                          @SimonCHulse @RedRobyn @joncounts I was planning to tomorrow actually.

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                          • va2lam@mastodon.nzV va2lam@mastodon.nz

                            @SimonCHulse @RedRobyn @joncounts I was planning to tomorrow actually.

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                            @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts might see you out there then- me and my family are going to ride it both ways tomorrow.

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                            • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                              @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts might see you out there then- me and my family are going to ride it both ways tomorrow.

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                              @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts we should be pretty easy to pick from the crowds- my wife will be pedalling our Urban Arrow with the kids in the front.

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                              • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                                @va2lam @RedRobyn @joncounts we should be pretty easy to pick from the crowds- my wife will be pedalling our Urban Arrow with the kids in the front.

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                                @SimonCHulse @RedRobyn @joncounts figured!

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                                • niall@mastodon.nzN niall@mastodon.nz

                                  @SimonCHulse its awesome that they did this and that they have opened the design up. But its odd that there's no obvious way to buy it. You can't 3D print a bell so its not like we can all go do it ourselves. Why go through all the other hoopla without making the thing?

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                                  @Niall @SimonCHulse the “why” is because car companies love making up solutions to cycling safety non-problems for PR and moral licensing the real damage they do to cyclists

                                  See also Volvo’s victim blaming spray paint

                                  (Oof, I’m extra grumpy today 🤣)

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                                  • edeverett@mastodon.socialE edeverett@mastodon.social

                                    @Niall @SimonCHulse the “why” is because car companies love making up solutions to cycling safety non-problems for PR and moral licensing the real damage they do to cyclists

                                    See also Volvo’s victim blaming spray paint

                                    (Oof, I’m extra grumpy today 🤣)

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                                    @edeverett @Niall it is a real problem, though, as a cyclist I’ve encountered walkers and runners getting in my way and not moving cause they can’t hear me coming on account of headphones.

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                                    • simonchulse@mastodon.nzS simonchulse@mastodon.nz

                                      @edeverett @Niall it is a real problem, though, as a cyclist I’ve encountered walkers and runners getting in my way and not moving cause they can’t hear me coming on account of headphones.

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                                      @SimonCHulse @edeverett @Niall

                                      The real issue is that cyclists are forced to share paths with walkers and runners.

                                      Ban cars, hand roads over to cyclists, the 'non-problem' disappears.

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