8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD.
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul I hate the “it’s not for you” argument because it’s a dismissal of legitimate criticism.
If serious people keep dismissing criticism in this way, eventually they won’t make a product “for you” anymore and you’ll be spending your money elsewhere.
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul M1 Pro chips are amazing. Mine still going & will hold out to see M6 lineup.
My personal recommendation for people is to get refurbed M2 Air or potentially higher. Or identify their use case as even iPad with stage manager could be more than enough
Too many UX compromises - no Touch ID on base model & usb 2 port instead of MagSafe. Plus the fact it’s a binned a18 pro chip! IMO it really ought to have the A19 Pro chip to benchmark higher than M1 for both single & multi core
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul I would normally consider upgrading my M1 Max MBP for an M5 Pro just based on age, but the rumors about the next model being a refresh are what's making me wait.
I think it's nuts that the Studio Display XDR has a more powerful processor in it than the new MacBook though. From the cost difference it makes sense, but they might as well just let the monitor run macOS.
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul I gave my last MacBook to my kid for college last year and we were told we could use our own machines for work instead of their decrepit intel based ones.
So, I’ve been saving (and selling things), and ordered an M5 Max that I am hoping will last me 5+ years and won’t make me regret it in 1…The Neo is still tempting as a second “I just need a terminal, a browser and a few apps” machine for offisite meetings.
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul A coworker of mine asked me how I felt about the M5 and if I wanted one, and I told him that I honestly don’t feel limited at all by the M1 Pro I have
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul I think this is because apple’s RAM is part of the SoC for speed, right? I agree with you, however, this is a little bit like complaining you can’t upgrade the level 4 cache on your CPU.
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@paul I still regret buying the M1 Max and not Pro… Apple made these chips too good, just no reason to upgrade
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@paul Assuming you're talking about the MacBook Neo? You're not the target audience; the target audience is probably more middle and high school kids who are getting issued shitty Chromebooks.
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8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.
@paul Call it the MacBook BSG.
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@paul I think this is because apple’s RAM is part of the SoC for speed, right? I agree with you, however, this is a little bit like complaining you can’t upgrade the level 4 cache on your CPU.
@codinghorror @paul yes, but had they used the current A19 Pro instead of the A18 Pro then they could've had 12GB, which would've been the sweet spot for this machine

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@codinghorror @paul yes, but had they used the current A19 Pro instead of the A18 Pro then they could've had 12GB, which would've been the sweet spot for this machine

@jonah @codinghorror @paul They don't have a warehouse full of extra A19s to find a use for.
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@jonah @codinghorror @paul They don't have a warehouse full of extra A19s to find a use for.
@bradwilson @jonah @codinghorror @paul and it gives them space for an upgrade next year.
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@bradwilson @jonah @codinghorror @paul and it gives them space for an upgrade next year.
@theolodian @bradwilson @jonah @paul if only qualcomm didn't suck beyond all human comprehension, maybe there'd be credible competition. Sadly, that's not the case.
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@theolodian @bradwilson @jonah @paul if only qualcomm didn't suck beyond all human comprehension, maybe there'd be credible competition. Sadly, that's not the case.
@codinghorror @bradwilson @jonah @paul unfortunately no one can compete with Apple’s integration of software and hardware, and resources.
The next year will be interesting in terms of Europe’s exposure to US tech.

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@codinghorror @bradwilson @jonah @paul unfortunately no one can compete with Apple’s integration of software and hardware, and resources.
The next year will be interesting in terms of Europe’s exposure to US tech.

@theolodian @bradwilson @jonah @paul and yet, AMD competed with Intel just fine for a long time. "no one can compete" .. I mean, really?
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@theolodian @bradwilson @jonah @paul and yet, AMD competed with Intel just fine for a long time. "no one can compete" .. I mean, really?
@codinghorror @bradwilson @jonah @paul the Surface Pro gets BSOD. Really Microsoft?
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A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.
I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.
@paul even for “the non tech people who should be buying this” 8gb is insane. My wife has the last touchbar MBP with an M2 and 8gb and it slows to a CRAWL when she opens more than like 8 tabs in Chrome because it’s going to swap
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@codinghorror @bradwilson @jonah @paul the Surface Pro gets BSOD. Really Microsoft?
@theolodian @codinghorror @jonah @paul Are you trying to suggest that Macs don't crash? That's naively incorrect.
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@theolodian @codinghorror @jonah @paul Are you trying to suggest that Macs don't crash? That's naively incorrect.
@bradwilson @codinghorror @jonah @paul certainly a lot less in my experience. I’m no Apple fanboy, but I don’t see anyone else coming along with such a complete ecosystem.
