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8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD.

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  • sonikku@techhub.socialS sonikku@techhub.social

    @paul yeah really feels 16gb is minimum IMO.

    But then again with RAM prices being insane maybe hitting that $599 was more important to them.

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    @Sonikku @paul I think they’re also tied to the limits of that cpu. The phones with the A18 only had 8gb, so it would make sense if that were the highest they could go. Maybe future versions based on A19 or higher could at least have 12gb https://getmona.app/rich_text/360829870883

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    • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

      8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.

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      @paul Hard disagree. Apple sell a product with all the items people are variously lamenting in the comments (16GB RAM, MagSafe, etc). It’s called a MacBook Air. Most normal users don’t even know what Thunderbolt is!

      They will absolutely sell these in insane volumes and people will love them. I work in an Apple support role and even just today alone I’ve mentioned the MacBook Neo and its price to several casually and you should see how their eyes light up when they hear about it.

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      • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

        8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.

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        @paul what I find interesting about this product, it is the first A series chip to run macOS. Or am I wrong about that?

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        • curt@gts.curttech.comC curt@gts.curttech.com

          @paul what I find interesting about this product, it is the first A series chip to run macOS. Or am I wrong about that?

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          @curt @paul The original developer kits for Apple Silicon had an A12Z from the then-current iPad Pro. But otherwise, yes.

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          • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

            8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.

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            @paul The item that stands out to me is the ram. 8GB wasn’t enough 6 years ago. Can people make it work? Yes, but not well. I might give it a pass at 12GB, compromises can be made, but 16GB should be the minimum.

            Everything else is reasonable compromises for a Chromebook competitor that runs macOS.

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            • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

              8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.

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              A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

              I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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              • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                @paul I still regret buying the M1 Max and not Pro… Apple made these chips too good, just no reason to upgrade

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                • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                  A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                  I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                  @paul It's crazy that the M1 Pro/Max, albeit 4 years old now, are so good that lots of us aren't even tempted by the M5 generation yet.

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                  • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                    A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                    I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                    @paul M1 Max here and I just have no idea when I’ll upgrade. It runs circles around my work issued M3 Pro too!

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                    • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                      A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                      I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                      @paul I hate the “it’s not for you” argument because it’s a dismissal of legitimate criticism.

                      If serious people keep dismissing criticism in this way, eventually they won’t make a product “for you” anymore and you’ll be spending your money elsewhere.

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                      • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                        A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                        I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                        @paul M1 Pro chips are amazing. Mine still going & will hold out to see M6 lineup.

                        My personal recommendation for people is to get refurbed M2 Air or potentially higher. Or identify their use case as even iPad with stage manager could be more than enough

                        Too many UX compromises - no Touch ID on base model & usb 2 port instead of MagSafe. Plus the fact it’s a binned a18 pro chip! IMO it really ought to have the A19 Pro chip to benchmark higher than M1 for both single & multi core

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                        • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                          A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                          I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                          @paul I would normally consider upgrading my M1 Max MBP for an M5 Pro just based on age, but the rumors about the next model being a refresh are what's making me wait.

                          I think it's nuts that the Studio Display XDR has a more powerful processor in it than the new MacBook though. From the cost difference it makes sense, but they might as well just let the monitor run macOS.

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                          • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                            A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                            I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                            @paul I gave my last MacBook to my kid for college last year and we were told we could use our own machines for work instead of their decrepit intel based ones.
                            So, I’ve been saving (and selling things), and ordered an M5 Max that I am hoping will last me 5+ years and won’t make me regret it in 1…

                            The Neo is still tempting as a second “I just need a terminal, a browser and a few apps” machine for offisite meetings.

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                            • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                              A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                              I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                              @paul A coworker of mine asked me how I felt about the M5 and if I wanted one, and I told him that I honestly don’t feel limited at all by the M1 Pro I have

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                              • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                                A lot of people have said "The new MacBook is not for you". I used a MBA 11" during the intel era for several gens. from right after the time they release the non prototype (aka envelope) model through when they nerfed them. Pretty sure the majority of some versions of Tweetbot was developed on one.

                                I could live with most of the limitations but there's two reasons I won't get one. 8GB is just insanity in 2026 and my MBP M1 Pro is just still too damned good enough for what I do on laptops.

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                                @paul I think this is because apple’s RAM is part of the SoC for speed, right? I agree with you, however, this is a little bit like complaining you can’t upgrade the level 4 cache on your CPU.

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                                • shnhrrsn@mastodon.socialS shnhrrsn@mastodon.social

                                  @paul I still regret buying the M1 Max and not Pro… Apple made these chips too good, just no reason to upgrade

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                                  @shnhrrsn @paul Yup. My M1 Pro is still amazing, and has thus far given me zero itch to upgrade (which is really saying something, considering how often I used to get new computers). A good problem to have, I suppose...

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                                  • jasoncox@mastodon.socialJ jasoncox@mastodon.social

                                    @paul Assuming you're talking about the MacBook Neo? You're not the target audience; the target audience is probably more middle and high school kids who are getting issued shitty Chromebooks.

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                                    @jasoncox @paul This. 110% this. For example, using the web version of Fusion 360 or even TinkerCAD on a Chromebook is rage-inducing, but if kids don't have an alternative at home, they're stuck with it.

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                                    • paul@tapbots.socialP paul@tapbots.social

                                      8GB of RAM, 2/4 core CPU, no thunderbolt, nerfed display out, 256GB of storage, nerfed LCD. I mean the price is great but damn feels like a few too many corners were cut.

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                                      @paul Call it the MacBook BSG.

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                                      • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                                        @paul I think this is because apple’s RAM is part of the SoC for speed, right? I agree with you, however, this is a little bit like complaining you can’t upgrade the level 4 cache on your CPU.

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                                        @codinghorror @paul yes, but had they used the current A19 Pro instead of the A18 Pro then they could've had 12GB, which would've been the sweet spot for this machine 😞

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                                        • sharding@mastodon.socialS sharding@mastodon.social

                                          @shnhrrsn @paul Yup. My M1 Pro is still amazing, and has thus far given me zero itch to upgrade (which is really saying something, considering how often I used to get new computers). A good problem to have, I suppose...

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                                          @sharding @paul the black MBP _almost_ broke me, but I just couldn't justify it.

                                          I actively use an M4 Max for work, I've had M2 & M3 at work in the past.

                                          I can not tell the difference vs my personal M1 Max 99.99% of the time. Maybe if I started running local LLMs or doing video editing or something

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