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  • oldoldcojote@climatejustice.socialO oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

    @markhurst

    Writing by hand is critically important to cognitive development. Probably eating ants out of small holes with a honey covered stick serves the same purpose, but we don't do that anymore. We are tool users. Our brains are wired for it.

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    @oldoldcojote @markhurst My step granddaughter attends a Montessori school where they teach kids to write in cursive at an early age. I think it is brilliant!

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    • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

      Now THAT's a headline.

      "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

      #edtech #education

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      Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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      @markhurst - May I point out that their parents elected Trump. Twice.

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      • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

        Now THAT's a headline.

        "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

        #edtech #education

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        The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

        Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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        @markhurst

        And moving right along from dodgy ed software to AI: next gen bandwidth shrinkage is next.

        Eloi for Morlocks?

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        • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

          Now THAT's a headline.

          "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

          #edtech #education

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          The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

          Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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          @markhurst do kids even learn how to write anymore?

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          • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

            @skua @markhurst There are lots of confounding variables other than laptops and tablets, yet we always see articles like this and almost never on the other factors. Yeah, a lot of this predates Covid, but there is a general lack of willingness to even consider or acknowledge the effects of this disease on children and the culpability that schools, school boards and society at large have in not making every effort to reduce exposure in an environment they are forced into.

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            @Infoseepage @markhurst
            I get that there are a lot of possible and probable contributors.

            Maybe I'm misreading your posts but it seems that you're confident that "laptops and tablets" and "the screen" more generally are not significant contributors.

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            • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

              Now THAT's a headline.

              "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

              #edtech #education

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              The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

              Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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              Fortune (fortune.com)

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              @markhurst 😖 why do they always have to do one or the other, that's not how humans work

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              • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

                Now THAT's a headline.

                "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

                #edtech #education

                Link Preview Image
                The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

                Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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                Fortune (fortune.com)

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                @markhurst
                Bummer.

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                • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @markhurst My totally unfounded opinion is that any tentative to enrich didactics with totally new "special effects", "added interaction", etc., has had the finally effect of disrupting *attention*.
                  They've lost the basic attention that's needed to follow a (boring) old book, because they've found the /entertaining/ part of the process more interesting.
                  Who writes educational texts should follow a good course on psychology of communication.

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                  @luc0x61 @markhurst

                  Let's put your post up on the networked smart screens and student's tablets, and then look at whether it fits with the synergies between genAI in education, so called "individual learning plans", flooding teachers with adminstrative paperwork and removing music, fine art and crafts from the curriculum?
                  /(Is this marking the end of a sarcastic post? So hard to be sure these days)

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                  • joycebell@mas.toJ joycebell@mas.to

                    @oldoldcojote @markhurst My step granddaughter attends a Montessori school where they teach kids to write in cursive at an early age. I think it is brilliant!

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                    @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst

                    This is how we were taught to write (at a normal, state-funded school here in UK). I'll never understand why they stopped teaching it.

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                    • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

                      Now THAT's a headline.

                      "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

                      #edtech #education

                      Link Preview Image
                      The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

                      Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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                      @markhurst Our local school in Ireland tried that.
                      We protested. It stopped.

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                      • grb090423@mastodon.socialG grb090423@mastodon.social

                        @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst

                        This is how we were taught to write (at a normal, state-funded school here in UK). I'll never understand why they stopped teaching it.

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                        @grb090423 @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst cursive handwriting is hard to read and slower than independent letters. It's also a pretty useless skill, compared to other things you could learn to do.

                        Not saying people shouldn't learn to write, but being able to type properly is more use than copybook cursive handwriting.

                        Most of what I was taught in school/uni has been directly useless in life but most has been transferable. Cursive handwriting is on the non-transferable list.

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                        • greensofshade@mastodon.socialG greensofshade@mastodon.social

                          @markhurst 😖 why do they always have to do one or the other, that's not how humans work

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                          @greensofshade @markhurst I was going to say just that. Same with assessment by coursework or exam, governments swing fully to one or other when a mixture gets the best of both.

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                          • grb090423@mastodon.socialG grb090423@mastodon.social

                            @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst

                            This is how we were taught to write (at a normal, state-funded school here in UK). I'll never understand why they stopped teaching it.

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                            @grb090423 @joycebell @markhurst

                            I taught my kids both cursive and printing at an early age. They prefer cursive.

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                            • drajt@fosstodon.orgD drajt@fosstodon.org

                              @grb090423 @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst cursive handwriting is hard to read and slower than independent letters. It's also a pretty useless skill, compared to other things you could learn to do.

                              Not saying people shouldn't learn to write, but being able to type properly is more use than copybook cursive handwriting.

                              Most of what I was taught in school/uni has been directly useless in life but most has been transferable. Cursive handwriting is on the non-transferable list.

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                              @drajt @grb090423 @joycebell @markhurst

                              I have no problem reading it. Have helped read historic letters for people who didn't learn it. Its all about what you care to practice.

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                              • markhurst@mastodon.socialM markhurst@mastodon.social

                                Now THAT's a headline.

                                "The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents"

                                #edtech #education

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                                The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents | Fortune

                                Neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said older generations “screwed up” giving students access to so much technology: “I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad.”

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                                @markhurst That was quite a read. Thanks for sharing.

                                "A less capable population […] endangers how humans are able to overcome existential challenges in the decades to come. We’re facing challenges more complex and far-reaching than any in human history—from overpopulation to evolving diseases to moral drift. Now, more than ever, we need a generation able to grapple with nuance, hold multiple truths in tension, and creatively tackle problems that are stumping the greatest adult minds of today.”

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                                • drajt@fosstodon.orgD drajt@fosstodon.org

                                  @grb090423 @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst cursive handwriting is hard to read and slower than independent letters. It's also a pretty useless skill, compared to other things you could learn to do.

                                  Not saying people shouldn't learn to write, but being able to type properly is more use than copybook cursive handwriting.

                                  Most of what I was taught in school/uni has been directly useless in life but most has been transferable. Cursive handwriting is on the non-transferable list.

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                                  @drajt @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst

                                  It helped me write quickly when needed in many jobs I had.

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                                  • grb090423@mastodon.socialG grb090423@mastodon.social

                                    @drajt @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst

                                    It helped me write quickly when needed in many jobs I had.

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                                    @grb090423 @joycebell @oldoldcojote @markhurst I was told it was faster when in school, but apparently there is little or no evidence to support this but there is evidence to suggest it is actually slower.

                                    Obviously everyone is different, but I almost never took notes at school or university in full cursive handwriting as I found mixed cursive and printing faster to write, and with hindsight easier to read.

                                    After decades of note taking at work I find I almost never use cursive.

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                                    • oldoldcojote@climatejustice.socialO oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

                                      @drajt @grb090423 @joycebell @markhurst

                                      I have no problem reading it. Have helped read historic letters for people who didn't learn it. Its all about what you care to practice.

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                                      @oldoldcojote @grb090423 @joycebell @markhurst obviously everyone is different and if you read it all the time you become more familiar with it.

                                      I find it like reading scribbles, my mother's for example was very typical, it looks pretty from a distance but was in fact almost impossible to read. My step-father could only print in block caps, but it was far more legible and far easier to read.

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                                      • skua@mastodon.socialS skua@mastodon.social

                                        @Infoseepage @markhurst
                                        I get that there are a lot of possible and probable contributors.

                                        Maybe I'm misreading your posts but it seems that you're confident that "laptops and tablets" and "the screen" more generally are not significant contributors.

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                                        @skua @markhurst To me, pointing to laptops and tablets as a cause is the equivalent of yelling "Hey, squirrel!" by a bunch of state school administrators who have come under deep rebuke of late as their school system has fallen to the bottom 10 states in the nation in terms of basic standardized test scores. There are a LOT of problem's with Maine's school systems and I found plenty of other articles which do point to them and talk about these issues in depth.

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                                        • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

                                          @skua @markhurst To me, pointing to laptops and tablets as a cause is the equivalent of yelling "Hey, squirrel!" by a bunch of state school administrators who have come under deep rebuke of late as their school system has fallen to the bottom 10 states in the nation in terms of basic standardized test scores. There are a LOT of problem's with Maine's school systems and I found plenty of other articles which do point to them and talk about these issues in depth.

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                                          @skua @markhurst Lets talk about some of those factors highlighted in articles:

                                          -Higher percentage of children whose parents lack secure employment than both the NE and national average.
                                          -high housing cost burden on household budgets.
                                          -poor teacher pay relative to cost of living (meaning they have a hard time attracting and retaining quality teachers).

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