this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

[skjeggtroll@mastodon.online]

@howking @cabel

Given the economics involved, that seems unlikely. The amount of money being burned by the companies providing the large LLM models is truly astounding, and no, there is no easy path forward to significantly reduce the costs involved.

[tribactam@social.vivaldi.net]

@howking @danbrotherston @cabel I think that many "AI haters" ARE actually concerned about the environmental and financial impacts of AI. Burning gas and polluting drinking water to make fake videos of your political opponents or cats isn't intelligence.

You've been drinking too much of the techbro kool-aid.

I'm not sure how old you are but simply saying people don't want to learn new skills is extremely disingenuous. Maybe your parents are already retired and so they don't have to.

Whatever you say, there is no intelligence in AI. There are emergent properties of a complex system, but LLMs are essentially probabilistic word generators. Think about how you form sentences and thoughts. Your brain is not searching for the next most probable word to make a sentence that makes grammatical sense. It is looking to capture and transmit meaning.

"Colourless green ideas sleep furiously"

[pontus_k@mastodon.social]

@howking @danbrotherston @cabel You can be on the forefront of AI adoption as a software engineer using it all day every day, reading books on your spare time and contemplating ways to improve, and still consider it a blight that has worsened all our lives and is guaranteed to make us even more alienated and confused while concentrating even more wealth in the hands of the ultra rich. This is sadly expected of us as a part of our jobs now. It's not a bubble I'm in. I genuinely hate it.

[unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyz]

@howking

Big claim - do you have any evidence for it?

[mabande@mastodon.social]

@danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel That's just the thing: what counts as "prosperous" and "poor"?
If it's a longer life expectancy with better health, prosperity is strictly linked to access to (free) vaccination and health care there's been great prosperity -- although often _in spite of_ the industrial revolution.
(side note: TIL that during the industrial revolution life expectancy in England didn't increase for the poor/workers, while the elites gained about a decade or so)

[howking@mastodonczech.cz]

@cabel @danbrotherston
@pontus_k
@tribactam
@gulfie
@Mikal
@SmartmanApps
@skjeggtroll
@rubixhelix

Daniel Beneš (@howking@mastodonczech.cz)

@VeroniqueB99@mastodon.social AI hate is lame.

MastodonCzech (mastodonczech.cz)

[peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv]

@howking @cabel what exactly is AI?
Because I am like forever in industry and what people call AI now, has nothing to do with AI and gonna fade away.
There are other technologies that will automate way more.
AI nonsense hype bubble is incredibly real.

[smartmanapps@dotnet.social]

@howking
"AI hate is lame" - factual is the word you're looking for

"I understand you, and you understand me" - nope. You most definitely did not understand this https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

"Just as steam engines came first, then gasoline engines were invented, and now we drive electric cars" - all of which involve engineering, which requires correct answers to Maths, which AI is incapable of

[asci@indieweb.social]

@Teratogenese @howking @danbrotherston @cabel more like Internet

[lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@cabel cannot turn audio on and my lip reading skills are abysmal

[rightsprung@c.im]

@cabel
The kids are alright...

[pkraus@berlin.social]

@howking @danbrotherston @cabel The people not using AI are afraid to learn new skills? Oh, the irony...

[wortwart@social.vivaldi.net]

@danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel If you see it from the distance of two centuries, from a society shaped by the industrial revolution it may look like that. But it seems you underestimate the massive disruption that it caused at the time.

For a lot of people the industrial revolution was catastrophic, bringing poverty, famine and early death. Trade unions, worker parties and communism were invented and revolutions staged. It took decades to fix the worst fallout of the industrial revolution.

Personally, I'd rather not have that happen in my lifetime but here we are.

[uniwuni@deadinsi.de]

@SmartmanApps @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel but it kind of does? i mean theres mathematicians acknowledging its generating some pretty decent proofs of previously unsolved stuff and so forth. i dont see why people are always clinging to these by now obviously false claims of inaptitude when the issues are much more standard capitalism type

[pikesley@mastodon.me.uk]

@SmartmanApps @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel

Reimagined Mouse Pointer (@pikesley@mastodon.me.uk)

"We made the computers, the notoriously accurate calculating machines, worse at arithmetic. This is surely progress along the path to creating Computer God"

mastodon.me.uk (mastodon.me.uk)

[zdl@mstdn.social]

@danbrotherston @howking @cabel Not only were the Luddites not against the machinery, many of them were MASTER USERS OF IT. Exactly as you said, the protest wasn't against machinery but against what it was doing to entire societies.

And it's the same fight today.

[angiebaby@mas.to]

@howking @danbrotherston @cabel

Smluvní podmínky a základní lidská slušnost mi zakazují vyjádřit mou nefiltrovanou reakci na tenhle debilní výrok.

[angiebaby@mas.to]

@howking @danbrotherston @cabel

"U DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, UR JUST A HAAAAAAATER"

[gimulnautti@mastodon.green]

@rainynight65 @cabel Don’t think she knows what she’s saying..

The industrial revolution was about deskilling, removing power #labour used to have, and concentrating it in the hands of those who owned the machines

This is the same plan #AI industrialists have right now

It isn’t one bit worth to celebrate. No teacher worth their salt should be praising it

The #industrialrevolution plunged majorities of citizens into poverty for 4 generations before they took control back!

[zdl@mstdn.social]

@howking @cabel Dude. Really.

History is **littered** with technology that was "here to stay" and was going to "change the world". **AI ALONE** has gone through at least four cycles of this hype in my lifetime alone!

LLMbeciles, in specific, are going to die a horrible death as soon as the fiscal gloves come off and be relegated to tiny niches like all prior AI did.

But go ahead. Ignore history. I'll just grab the popcorn and watch.