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  3. this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

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  • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

    this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

    when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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    @cabel https://escaperoad.org That’s the danger of spending too much time in like-minded spaces — eventually it starts to feel like everyone shares the same perspective. Moments like this can be a pretty harsh reality check.

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    • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

      this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

      when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

      emonk@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cabel the kids are ok

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      • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

        this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

        when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

        kirakira@furry.engineerK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cabel LOLL everyone cheering for ai not being part of their lives

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        • kepstin@tenforward.socialK kepstin@tenforward.social

          @cabel Here's a link to the original video, at the timestamp where she is introduced: https://youtu.be/zwYkHS8jvSE?t=4424

          If you don't feel like listening to her entire speech, here's a link to the moment: https://youtu.be/zwYkHS8jvSE?t=4870

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          @kepstin @cabel thanks, hero!!

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          • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

            this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

            when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

            infrapink@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cabel The kids are all right.

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            • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

              this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

              when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

              lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cabel fucking idiot

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              • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

                this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

                when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

                howking@mastodonczech.czH This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.

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                • paniczgodek@functional.cafeP paniczgodek@functional.cafe

                  @cabel given the amount of harm the industrial revolution did to the planet and how it reshaped the society causing mental issues to many workers, I don't think she said anything controversial

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                  @PaniczGodek @cabel the Industrial Revolution also lifted billions of people out poverty and into prosperity. I don’t see AI doing anything like that.

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                  • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                    @cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.

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                    @howking @cabel the luddites weren’t against the machine, they were against capitalist ownership and the transition of craftsmen with some power into factory workers with none. It’s a much more nuanced storey.

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                    • danbrotherston@types.plD danbrotherston@types.pl

                      @howking @cabel the luddites weren’t against the machine, they were against capitalist ownership and the transition of craftsmen with some power into factory workers with none. It’s a much more nuanced storey.

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                      @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                      • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                        @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                        @howking @danbrotherston @cabel
                        Like uh...asbestos ?

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                        • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                          @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                          @howking @danbrotherston @cabel
                          "Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI" - just the fact that it's wrong all the time, and is harmful in education (hence the reaction) 🙄 https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

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                          • danbrotherston@types.plD danbrotherston@types.pl

                            @PaniczGodek @cabel the Industrial Revolution also lifted billions of people out poverty and into prosperity. I don’t see AI doing anything like that.

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                            @danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel Depending on what counts as poverty and prosperity.

                            (as an example most(? at least the most influential) poverty calculations count subsistence farming on communal land as poverty because there's no private ownership, no matter how abundant the yield is)

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                            • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                              @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                              @howking @cabel that certainly isn’t true. There are definitely a variety of issues people may have with the current AI industry. Many certainly are concerned with the environment. And many including myself also object to the financial situation.

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                              • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                                @howking

                                Oh, I can assure you, as an AI hater, I am deeply, profoundly opposed to the environmental impacts of generative AI and data centers. If dismissing AI critics with such a simplistic broad brush is the best you got, well, I rest my case.

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                                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                  RE: https://masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/116519255422938868

                                  @cabel

                                  For so many reasons, AI is not the next industrial revolution. The math does not math. The more advanced it becomes the more tokens are spent. The subscriptions people are buying right now are heavily subsidize to the tune of between five and 12 times the cost in tokens. The companies are trying to wriggle out from that real reality. Beyond this is the infrastructure reality that distinguishes data centers from previous bubbles like rail or dot com.

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                                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel
                                  "The math does not math" - well, AI doesn't know how to do Maths anyway 😂 https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

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                                  • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

                                    this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

                                    when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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                                    @cabel The companies building AI have told us for the past few years that AI can do our jobs better and cheaper than us and that it will replace us. This sounds great if you're an investor, but we are not investors. We are people who need to work to make ends meet and pay our bills. The vast majority of society is.

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                                    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                                      @danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel Depending on what counts as poverty and prosperity.

                                      (as an example most(? at least the most influential) poverty calculations count subsistence farming on communal land as poverty because there's no private ownership, no matter how abundant the yield is)

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                                      @Mabande @PaniczGodek @cabel I don’t think this is particularly controversial, no matter how much you twiddle the margins. If you think the majority of people are not more prosperous now, by any definition that is remotely objective— well, that is truely an extraordinary claim.

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                                      • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel
                                        "The math does not math" - well, AI doesn't know how to do Maths anyway 😂 https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

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                                        @SmartmanApps @cabel

                                        Raising the question, if the people who own these corporations believe the numbers, their own product produces.

                                        Or the other question of whether the product was trained on their own thinking.

                                        #chatCEO

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                                        • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

                                          this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

                                          when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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                                          @cabel
                                          @edutooters need to watch this

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