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I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

    @haubles I think this is very much a problem caused by the low level design of the fediverse. The way instances work in ActivityPub leads to a few people in powerful positions and that's very much an effect of the technology, not a purely social one.

    lori@cambrian.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @aesthr @haubles I see instance/account as analogous to a landlord/tenant relationship. The single-user instances, I suppose are the homeowners. Self hosting costs money. It's small money, but it's money. I think the emerging wireless mesh networks have the right network topology but unfortunately have various proprietary softwares and firmwares in the stack, but it seems exciting, possibly more exciting than the fediverse.
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    • wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbtW wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt

      @weezmgk Yeah, it's been a core part of the platform as long as I've been a user (since 2022...?), but it's a process you need to actively initiate. I don't remember where it is exactly, but if you open the web app, there should be a section in your account settings, to initiate a migration and deactivate your existing account...

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      @WolvericCatkin @weezmgk I crashed just after I found out my instance was shutting down, and by the time I was well enough to come back it was gone and I couldn't migrate anything. Thanks, #LongCovid.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @davew

        have you seen our cat pictures?

        no finer cat pictures

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        @benroyce @davew And the most alt-text-encouraging culture in cyberspace.
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        • ben@social.ben.ieB ben@social.ben.ie

          @taylorlorenz as a platform it is not and can never be adversarial or extractive to you as a user, the way twitter, Facebook, instagram, TikTok and others are or will be.

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          @taylorlorenz @ben Certainly non-adversarial data export was a distant memory before I found the fediverse.
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          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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            @taylorlorenz

            Twitter was like being stuck on a cable news panel of people shouting at each other. Every interaction was fraught and involved people obsessed with correcting or reinforcing each other's opinions.

            Mastodon is like a coffee break at a conference. Like walking through a constant stream of interesting conversations that I can drift in and out of without fuss or pressure.

            I don't have to surf an emotional high as I scroll. People here read posts all the way through and engage intellectually and emotionally instead of only emotionally.

            And I curate my timeline, so I can manage how much emotional exhaustion I'm willing to incur and I mostly don't get random crap that infuriates me or is designed to upset me.

            There are still microbloggers, and there are moderation problems, but Mastodon doesn't track "influence" so I don't get many influencers in my feed.

            It's restful.

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            • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

              @taylorlorenz @_elena @Tamtam

              Sorry, shitty hosting, I'll get one from YouTube(!)
              But only that's because I'm too sloppy to find other fediverse posts...

              ... Thanks for the feedback though, C44 peertube is running on a bottom tier VPS, it's an experiment

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YRJHIJy5Nno

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              @_elena @Tamtam @n_dimension @taylorlorenz C44 appears to be #ytdlp compatible and therefore works for me. It's on my playlist for tonite.
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              • alessandro@mstdn.caA alessandro@mstdn.ca

                @taylorlorenz

                It's like, imagine if a single company owned all the TV stations and news outlets?

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                #305

                The Fediverse, and Mastodon in particular, showcases what social media can be when designed for democratic dialogue rather than profit.
                It’s open source, so its rules and algorithms are transparent and accountable.
                No single company owns it, so no billionaire can unilaterally shape speech.
                It’s also interoperable, meaning people can move freely instead of being trapped in walled gardens.
                Because it doesn't depend on outrage for ad revenue, it fosters healthier, more civil conversations.
                #LeaveX

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                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                  htaggert@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @taylorlorenz for me- I enjoy posting without anyone trying to monetize me or my data

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                    tamtam@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @taylorlorenz it's not trying to steer society towards fascism, All the algorithmic social media chucks far right content at you now, The algorithms have been tweeked to prefer it. They also block searches for "democrats" for instance . Or "Trump dementia". The CEOs have adopted the strategie to bring up fascist regimes so they will not be regulated. Also: Trump has people on the board of meta now.
                    Open source is our only chance at keeping a democratic society.

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                    • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                      @taylorlorenz @_elena @Tamtam

                      Sorry, shitty hosting, I'll get one from YouTube(!)
                      But only that's because I'm too sloppy to find other fediverse posts...

                      ... Thanks for the feedback though, C44 peertube is running on a bottom tier VPS, it's an experiment

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YRJHIJy5Nno

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                      @n_dimension @taylorlorenz @_elena by the way, how do I find a peertube instance, that would host my channel and has better hosting than this example, we just saw?
                      Is it possible to make a living off of peertube? does anyone know anyone who does is? Like offering services on patreon and solely getting their audience from the fediverse, never posting on YT??

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                      • lori@cambrian.socialL lori@cambrian.social
                        @_elena @Tamtam @n_dimension @taylorlorenz C44 appears to be #ytdlp compatible and therefore works for me. It's on my playlist for tonite.
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                        @lori @_elena @n_dimension @taylorlorenz can you make your post accesible for non tech -me?

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                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                          @taylorlorenz the most persuasive description I have heard is that, if you're not getting the support or moderation you need, you can just move without having to leave all your followers behind.

                          In that way it's more like phone providers or ISP in that because everything's connected but independent, you're not stuck with whoever you started with.

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                            zekovski@pouet.chapril.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @taylorlorenz
                            The network is built so it can't be controlled by one single entity.
                            Therefore this entity cannot impose a unique censorship to everyone.

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                            • cholling@bytes.programming.devC cholling@bytes.programming.dev

                              @philpetree @taylorlorenz How does that stop crawlers (and not other traffic)?

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                              @cholling @taylorlorenz User Agent Strings which id crawlers such as GPTBot.

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                              • philpetree@mastodon.socialP philpetree@mastodon.social

                                @cholling @taylorlorenz User Agent Strings which id crawlers such as GPTBot.

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                                @philpetree @taylorlorenz And can never be faked?

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                                • tamtam@mastodon.deT tamtam@mastodon.de

                                  @taylorlorenz it's not trying to steer society towards fascism, All the algorithmic social media chucks far right content at you now, The algorithms have been tweeked to prefer it. They also block searches for "democrats" for instance . Or "Trump dementia". The CEOs have adopted the strategie to bring up fascist regimes so they will not be regulated. Also: Trump has people on the board of meta now.
                                  Open source is our only chance at keeping a democratic society.

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                                  @Tamtam @taylorlorenz If it's not o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶ free software it's a simulacrum and a panopticon.
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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                    steve_lindsay@fediscience.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @taylorlorenz I'm no expert but I think the main advantage is that the fediverse is not designed to milk its users for profit.

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                                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                      danbrotherston@types.plD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @taylorlorenz Ultimately, you're not going to get everyone on board, no matter how you describe it. There are simply people, for whom a strongman authoritarian is the preferred form of governance (they believe it'll always be their strongman of course). These people will never prefer a distributed system.

                                      But that's not such a helpful answer, hopefully there are good arguments for reading the remainder (majority) of people who prefer democratic governance and distributed power.

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                                      • cholling@bytes.programming.devC cholling@bytes.programming.dev

                                        @philpetree @taylorlorenz And can never be faked?

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                                        @cholling @taylorlorenz and no problem can ever be solved and no solution is ever complete... Dude, your schtick is as old as time. Find another target.

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                                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                          abosio@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @taylorlorenz My main reason is no tech bro can buy it and even if my instance goes bad I can easily relocate to another.

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