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  3. Seriously, the fundamental problem with the Democratic Party is this dynamic where as soon as Republicans attack them for supporting a marginalized community, ANY marginalized community, Democrats withdraw all support and pretend that group doesn't exist.

Seriously, the fundamental problem with the Democratic Party is this dynamic where as soon as Republicans attack them for supporting a marginalized community, ANY marginalized community, Democrats withdraw all support and pretend that group doesn't exist.

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  • floralia@girlcock.clubF floralia@girlcock.club

    @gwynnion Okay, I'm out of food again.
    Out of SNAP. My birthday is tomorrow. Can you spare anything?
    #MutualAid

    https://www.paypal.me/FloraRacine
    https://cash.app/$FloraRacine

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    @floralia @gwynnion I am disabled so I cannot help but I wanted to see if you have looked at

    www.foodpantries.org

    It sorts by state then city and they usually have details about the hours and qualifications (if any) for each pantry.

    If you’re near a lot of them & you have a car you can make rounds to make up for the fact that they usually limit how often people can come.

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    • maggiejk@zeroes.caM maggiejk@zeroes.ca

      @gwynnion I’m sitting here trying to think of any time that she talked about trans people that I remember, and I can’t think of any.

      Whenever someone would try to tell me that the dems made their whole campaign about protecting trans people first I ask them who did, because I am genuinely surprised to hear this. Then I point out that the dems wouldn’t have to keep bringing up trans rights if the right wasn’t obsessed with eliminating trans people.

      I would love to see a brief compilation of all the times Kamala talked about fighting for trans people because I don’t remember any (doesn’t mean it didn’t happen-I have brain fog and I smoke weed) and I would love to see it.

      Something disturbing I have noticed in my state government (NH) is that the far left dems either side with republicans A LOT or they fight for trans people. It’s like there’s a small portion of dem reps who side with republicans against trans people & those republicans support their stuff. Our state house is like a high school full of cliques.

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      @maggiejk The only time I recall Harris talking about trans issues was in an interview where she coldly and angrily shut down the line of questioning with: "We will follow the law." She refused to say anything else.

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      • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

        Seriously, the fundamental problem with the Democratic Party is this dynamic where as soon as Republicans attack them for supporting a marginalized community, ANY marginalized community, Democrats withdraw all support and pretend that group doesn't exist.

        And if that doesn't work, they adopt Republican talking points and pivot to attacking that group themselves. Which obviously doesn't help as it shows fear and vulnerability. The Republicans just amp up their attacks even more.

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        @gwynnion I think John Oliver sketch about the Baileys was perfectly on point.

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        • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

          Seriously, the fundamental problem with the Democratic Party is this dynamic where as soon as Republicans attack them for supporting a marginalized community, ANY marginalized community, Democrats withdraw all support and pretend that group doesn't exist.

          And if that doesn't work, they adopt Republican talking points and pivot to attacking that group themselves. Which obviously doesn't help as it shows fear and vulnerability. The Republicans just amp up their attacks even more.

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          @gwynnion To quote political fixer John Poindexter:

          "With enemies like the Democrats, who needs friends?"

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          • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

            So I'm telling you that if you want Democrats to win elections, they're going to have to move to where voters are, not what they, their donors, and their third way consultants want.

            And if you want them to fix anything Trump, et al. have done, their opposition is going to have to be more than just tone policing Trump's social media account.

            People WANT Democrats to be loud, rude, and angry on their behalf.

            Otherwise ratchet theory will keep driving us off a cliff.

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            @gwynnion The deeper issue in America is calling a two party elitist system "democracy". Nothing will change for the poor, marginalized people in America or globally unless the system is rebirth from the ground up with true democratic participation and principles.
            A pseudo democracy that was designed to protect the interests of the elite will only ever do that.
            Doesn't matter what colour or party. The system is toxic, oppressive, corrupt and inept.

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            • wil@beige.partyW wil@beige.party

              @gwynnion And it makes those of us who have always voted Democrat stop supporting them.

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              @wil Every election of my adult life. I don't see the point now.

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              • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                Seriously, the fundamental problem with the Democratic Party is this dynamic where as soon as Republicans attack them for supporting a marginalized community, ANY marginalized community, Democrats withdraw all support and pretend that group doesn't exist.

                And if that doesn't work, they adopt Republican talking points and pivot to attacking that group themselves. Which obviously doesn't help as it shows fear and vulnerability. The Republicans just amp up their attacks even more.

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                @gwynnion

                The problem is Conservative Democrats, which the party leadership is most composed of.

                They're the same people who will tell us unity is more important than accountability and change. The same people who will try to work with Trump's MAGA Nazi Pedophiles supporters, by compitulating, and claim it is what is best for the country.

                Then there is us, we the people, who at our heart mostly value progressive values and morals, who want accountability and change. The things the leadership will sacrifice everything and call that a "compromise".

                This is why our country keeps getting worse. It is why some people will argue both sides are the same, because how we get there and by want means may vary, but we still go down that dark path to that dark place, we never wanted to go.

                We can end this cycle. New York City has the right idea. Stop supporting the leadership and actually vote for real progressives.

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                • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                  Her loss was blamed specifically on trans people. She was accused of campaigning too hard for us and leaving herself vulnerable to Trump's barrage of anti-trans ads.

                  Literally none of this happened.

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                  @gwynnion

                  Yeah. We heard what she said. "I'll follow the law." Weak sauce. That was NOT campaigning too hard.

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                  • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                    Again, to be very clear, Democrats need to follow voters, not the other way around. That's literally how politics works.

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                    @gwynnion 👏🏿! 👏🏿! 👏🏿! Thank you.

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                    • gwynnion@mastodon.socialG gwynnion@mastodon.social

                      Again, to be very clear, Democrats need to follow voters, not the other way around. That's literally how politics works.

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                      @gwynnion

                      The cliche used to be that Democratic leaders hate their base, Republican leaders fear their base.

                      I'd be satisfied with Democratic leaders fearing the base.

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                      • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

                        @gwynnion

                        The cliche used to be that Democratic leaders hate their base, Republican leaders fear their base.

                        I'd be satisfied with Democratic leaders fearing the base.

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                        @BlueDot To us, losing elections poses an existential threat. Unfortunately, to Democrats, losing elections just means they can't do as much insider trading.

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