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" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"

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  • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

    @liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder

    It's one reason I'm annoyed by phrase "you people voted for Trump" (when posted on mastodon).

    Groups that heavily voted for Harris were Black women, LGBT people, people with postgraduate degrees, the religiously unaffiliated, and I think newspaper readers were also heavily biased against Trump, but I can't find a confirming reference right now.

    Those are all categories heavily over represented here on mastodon compared to the general population.

    There's not a lot of straight white people with a high school diploma who call themselves evangelical around here.

    We should be arguing about how to communicate to the mainstream not complaining about each other.

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    @alienghic @liferstate @fathermcgruder

    my feeling is we win by flipping nonvoters

    me yelling at a nonvoter on mastodon doesn't achieve that

    but there's plenty listening who i am not yelling at who, reading along, appreciate the point, and decide to vote

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @fathermcgruder @SeanJH @liferstate

      how's that bullseye going under trump since he is now in power because so many didn't vote?

      what has been achieved by not voting on what you *say* you care about?

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      @benroyce @fathermcgruder @SeanJH Musk's destruction of USAID has already killed tens of thousands of people. It's projected he could cause as many as 14 million unnecessary deaths, the deaths of people who would've lived if the food and medicine they depended on hadn't been ripped away (and in some cases literally set on fire!!). This is also a genocide, and it was 100% preventable. All you had to do was vote for the Black lady.

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      • liferstate@mas.toL liferstate@mas.to

        @benroyce @fathermcgruder I'm old enough to remember when the progressive watchword was "Listen to Black women." But when Black women said "I'm voting for Harris and you should too" suddenly that wasn't important anymore.

        In 2024, 92% of Black women voted for Harris. It wasn't because they didn't care about Palestine. It's because Black voters know very well that every candidate is flawed and all votes are strategic. White people still refuse to take that lesson.

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        @liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder The problem of wasn't progressives. It was moderates shifting right because eggs were expensive.

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        • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

          @dalias voting for any pro-genocide candidate sends the wrong feedback signal. We know now that the Democrats got the message: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza
          Hopefully, they will take heed on future campaigns.

          @SeanJH @liferstate @benroyce

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          @fathermcgruder @dalias @SeanJH @liferstate

          just, you know, fuck all the trans people, immigrants, women, {insert 1,000 other examples of death and damage domestically and internationally here, including in the middle east which you *say* you care about}, to make your point

          which i don't even think was made. you allude to an article, and so what. some airhead centrist is going "well let's appeal to MAGA" about now

          do i understand your entitlement obsession and callousness correctly?

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          • xenotrope@bsd.networkX xenotrope@bsd.network

            @liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder The problem of wasn't progressives. It was moderates shifting right because eggs were expensive.

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            @xenotrope @liferstate @fathermcgruder

            they must be loving the gas prices about now

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @alienghic @liferstate @fathermcgruder

              my feeling is we win by flipping nonvoters

              me yelling at a nonvoter on mastodon doesn't achieve that

              but there's plenty listening who i am not yelling at who, reading along, appreciate the point, and decide to vote

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              @benroyce @liferstate @fathermcgruder

              I do think the lesson of Trump is that exciting your disaffected non-voting base can be more effective than chasing swing voters.

              The mainstream democrats keep chasing swing voters, and they end up depressing their progressive core who then stays home. All I've got for this is vote in the primaries and support "progressive" organizing groups

              I think to win elections we also need ways of countering the right wing bias in mainstream culture.

              nytimes.com

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              It'd be really good for us if the warner brother's / paramount merger fails.

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              • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                @benroyce @liferstate @fathermcgruder

                I do think the lesson of Trump is that exciting your disaffected non-voting base can be more effective than chasing swing voters.

                The mainstream democrats keep chasing swing voters, and they end up depressing their progressive core who then stays home. All I've got for this is vote in the primaries and support "progressive" organizing groups

                I think to win elections we also need ways of countering the right wing bias in mainstream culture.

                nytimes.com

                favicon

                (www.nytimes.com)

                It'd be really good for us if the warner brother's / paramount merger fails.

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                @alienghic @liferstate @fathermcgruder

                well of course we need more left candidates

                but you can't depend upon centrist airheads going "how can we appeal to MAGA" to understand that

                so you need to just replace them by leftist voters showing up in the primaries

                mamdani is the blueprint

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @fathermcgruder @dalias @SeanJH @liferstate

                  just, you know, fuck all the trans people, immigrants, women, {insert 1,000 other examples of death and damage domestically and internationally here, including in the middle east which you *say* you care about}, to make your point

                  which i don't even think was made. you allude to an article, and so what. some airhead centrist is going "well let's appeal to MAGA" about now

                  do i understand your entitlement obsession and callousness correctly?

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                  @benroyce @fathermcgruder @dalias @SeanJH Trans people who have the means to do so are fleeing the country right now. Not a metaphor. I'm in a pretty safe area and even I have an exit plan.

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                  • liferstate@mas.toL liferstate@mas.to

                    @benroyce @fathermcgruder @dalias @SeanJH Trans people who have the means to do so are fleeing the country right now. Not a metaphor. I'm in a pretty safe area and even I have an exit plan.

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                    @liferstate @fathermcgruder @dalias @SeanJH

                    that's what nonvoters gave us

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                    • liferstate@mas.toL liferstate@mas.to

                      @benroyce @fathermcgruder @SeanJH Musk's destruction of USAID has already killed tens of thousands of people. It's projected he could cause as many as 14 million unnecessary deaths, the deaths of people who would've lived if the food and medicine they depended on hadn't been ripped away (and in some cases literally set on fire!!). This is also a genocide, and it was 100% preventable. All you had to do was vote for the Black lady.

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                      @liferstate @benroyce @SeanJH Excuse me, but there was more than one black lady on my 2024 ballot so you are just showing your whole ass right now.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @alienghic @liferstate @fathermcgruder

                        well of course we need more left candidates

                        but you can't depend upon centrist airheads going "how can we appeal to MAGA" to understand that

                        so you need to just replace them by leftist voters showing up in the primaries

                        mamdani is the blueprint

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                        @benroyce @liferstate @fathermcgruder

                        Given how we're all terminally online, it might help if we figured out how to replicate 4chan's meme game, but for not being evil.

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                        • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                          @liferstate @benroyce @SeanJH Excuse me, but there was more than one black lady on my 2024 ballot so you are just showing your whole ass right now.

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                          @fathermcgruder @benroyce @SeanJH Sorry but I have better things to do than keep track of fringe vanity presidential campaigns.

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                          • christopherbrown@mastodon.socialC christopherbrown@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @davoyager I’ve already seen two sets of people in Texas:

                            1) They didn’t vote for Crockett. They failed us again. I won’t turn out in November.

                            2) Talarico is a Fetterman. I won’t vote for him.

                            Both failed strategies for improving our current situation, especially since TX MAGA cannot figure out which flaming shit bag they like, Cornyn (played racism for support) or Paxton (anti-trans and cuttting deal to drop out).

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                            @christopherbrown

                            I'm in PA and want to put a massive pin in comparing anyone to Fetterman.

                            1st, Fetterman did not run as a progressive (that was Malcom Kenyatta). He ran as a populist. The big funny looking guy with tattoos who was mayor of a small disadvantaged town in Western PA and understands working people.

                            2nd, he suffered a very serious stroke and was later hospitalized with depression. He is not the same as he was b4 those medical events.

                            3rd, he has ...

                            @benroyce @davoyager

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