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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

    scottymace@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @hacks4pancakes Well, there's a difference between "conservative" and a cult. I'm confident you know that, and I'm not trying to be a reply guy. The situation is that the "conservatives" that can't make compromises, and are absolutists, aren't conservatives at all! They are ideological cultists, and represent the worst of humanity.

    As climate change forced migration increases, and wealth inequality increases, (connected!) these people will amp up their rhetoric to convert more to their cult.

    It's the same with "I'm a CAPITALIST!", yet champion monopolies. No, they aren't, they're greedy cultists.

    Sorry for the screed, but I think we're kinda fucked.

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    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

      It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

      3janeta@beige.party3 This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @hacks4pancakes oh hell no

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      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

        jztusk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @hacks4pancakes

        Note to male colleague: When you find yourself in this situation, do not return the look of the candidate. Direct your gaze at your female colleague. It makes it clear that she's the one the answer should be directed to, and perhaps the candidate might figure this out.

        Also: not just for interview situations.

        Also also: still don't hire the guy.

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        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

          madduci@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @hacks4pancakes wow, incredibly disrespectful, whatever the culture or background is.

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

            oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            @hacks4pancakes

            Short interview?

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            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

              I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

              orloff@sfba.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              @hacks4pancakes When this would happen in previous company's interview rotations we would just have an immediate urgent production issue and short circuit the interviews. We called it "the kubernetes cluster went down" (we didn't use kubernetes).

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                phpete@mastodon.coffeeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hacks4pancakes

                Several failed attempts at a reply later, I think I'm settling on the 😬 emoji, and some perhaps some sort of reference to my assumption that at least you could kick their ass in a fight?

                Meh.

                Some people just suck.

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                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                  It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                  bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @hacks4pancakes time for the red pen

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                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                    It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                    @hacks4pancakes

                    Enraging.

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

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                      @hacks4pancakes Prejudices can happen, being prejudiced happened to me too, when I talked – out of a group of two people – to the one of them I assumed capable of answering my question. I felt deeply ashamed when after one minute I realized the other one was competent and swore to myself it wouldn't happen to me again.

                      Someone not able to realize their prejudiced behaviour for the duration of a whole interview – no way.
                      I guess you have the last word on the hiring decision, right? But assume if not, I hope the person who did have the last word would be susceptible to understanding why not hiring that person.

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                        @hacks4pancakes Ugh. People can be so awful. Sorry. 😞

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                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                          @hacks4pancakes that's because you look too awesome to look directly, right ?

                          ...


                          right ?
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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                            @hacks4pancakes Did he get the job? (LOL)

                            I was given an interview by a woman and her collegue (man), i mostly spoke to the woman (facing her directly) and hardly talked to the man at all, i could see it in her face that she loved every moment of it.

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                            • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                              @hacks4pancakes

                              Note to male colleague: When you find yourself in this situation, do not return the look of the candidate. Direct your gaze at your female colleague. It makes it clear that she's the one the answer should be directed to, and perhaps the candidate might figure this out.

                              Also: not just for interview situations.

                              Also also: still don't hire the guy.

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                              mweiss@infosec.exchange
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                              @jztusk @hacks4pancakes yes! Though I've found even then that most of the time it doesn't work.

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                              • nnungest@fosstodon.orgN nnungest@fosstodon.org

                                @hacks4pancakes ironically it is really hard to tolerate the intolerant and accept the unaccepting.

                                on a more business note, if the expectation is that they must be able to interface with all the staff and they chose not to, I would feel they aren't able to fulfil the stated job responsibilities. Best to ensure that is included in the posting.

                                edit: also sorry you had to deal with this

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                                #30

                                @nnungest isn’t that an implied requirement?

                                @hacks4pancakes

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                                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                  It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                  tijgertje1987@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @hacks4pancakes
                                  Instant rejection right ?

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                    @hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!

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                                    • orloff@sfba.socialO orloff@sfba.social

                                      @hacks4pancakes When this would happen in previous company's interview rotations we would just have an immediate urgent production issue and short circuit the interviews. We called it "the kubernetes cluster went down" (we didn't use kubernetes).

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                                      @orloff @hacks4pancakes

                                      I was just thinking, whenever it happens, your male colleague suddenly remember to bring glasses of water, or has an emergency, then you finish the interview f2f.
                                      Ir simply turn the interview short.
                                      Strange to me that some ppl cut themselves from a part of humanity.

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                                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                        malveus@mastodonsweden.seM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @hacks4pancakes will you hire him?

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                                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                          todd_cravens@ioc.exchange
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                                          @hacks4pancakes First thing, I'm so sorry you had to experience that. No matter the other person's objective, that still hurts.
                                          I only know you from following you on socials, but I hope you are strong and this is something that we can all take just a moment to learn from. Please don't let this moment break your strength from all the good that you know.

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