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  3. Had a blind person tell me today, offline, that they actually hope LLMs eliminate the need to go to websites because that would mean he would never have to fight an inaccessible website again, and I'm just sad forever now.

Had a blind person tell me today, offline, that they actually hope LLMs eliminate the need to go to websites because that would mean he would never have to fight an inaccessible website again, and I'm just sad forever now.

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  • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

    @WeirdWriter https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui (CW: stupid)

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    @prism @WeirdWriter

    soo, essentially, they need the AI to remove the bad UI and turn it back into readable plaintext, because people trust the machines more than the devs/laws about accessibility?

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    • kirch@tilde.zoneK kirch@tilde.zone

      @prism @WeirdWriter

      soo, essentially, they need the AI to remove the bad UI and turn it back into readable plaintext, because people trust the machines more than the devs/laws about accessibility?

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      @kirch @WeirdWriter Devs/laws move too slowly! I need my access now. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!

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      • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

        @WeirdWriter https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui (CW: stupid)

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        @prism @WeirdWriter Honestly all oopinions aside I find it rather amusing that a so-called accessibility advocate signed off on an infographic without alt text. ALso, their understanding of screen readers appears to be fundamentally flawed. I'll cover this one on stream in half an hour 🙂

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        • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

          @prism @WeirdWriter Honestly all oopinions aside I find it rather amusing that a so-called accessibility advocate signed off on an infographic without alt text. ALso, their understanding of screen readers appears to be fundamentally flawed. I'll cover this one on stream in half an hour 🙂

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          @zersiax @WeirdWriter Please don't. He gets enough attention as it is.

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          • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

            @WeirdWriter https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui (CW: stupid)

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            @prism @WeirdWriter

            Using AI to create an unsupportable nightmare, story number 77164.

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            • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

              @prism @WeirdWriter Honestly all oopinions aside I find it rather amusing that a so-called accessibility advocate signed off on an infographic without alt text. ALso, their understanding of screen readers appears to be fundamentally flawed. I'll cover this one on stream in half an hour 🙂

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              @zersiax @WeirdWriter And he's not an accessibility advocate, he knows nothing about it. He is a "human interface consultant," which is a fancy way of saying substack blogger. Totally different gig.

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              • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                Had a blind person tell me today, offline, that they actually hope LLMs eliminate the need to go to websites because that would mean he would never have to fight an inaccessible website again, and I'm just sad forever now. It was somewhat similar to https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui #AI #LLM #WebDev #Accessibility

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                techsinger@tweesecake.social
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                @WeirdWriter that was heartbreaking. Seriously heartbreaking. 30 years and here we are.

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                • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                  @zersiax @WeirdWriter Please don't. He gets enough attention as it is.

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                  @prism @WeirdWriter all the better to push back. He apparently thinks he's hot shit, because he's been in the bizz for 30 years and can do no wrong, but He's not the first of his kind I've filetted and in this case, bad press is not good press

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                  • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                    @zersiax @WeirdWriter And he's not an accessibility advocate, he knows nothing about it. He is a "human interface consultant," which is a fancy way of saying substack blogger. Totally different gig.

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                    @prism @WeirdWriter lol it's what he calls himself in the article, so I shall judge him as such

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                    • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                      @zersiax @WeirdWriter And he's not an accessibility advocate, he knows nothing about it. He is a "human interface consultant," which is a fancy way of saying substack blogger. Totally different gig.

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                      @prism @zersiax @WeirdWriter
                      Thanks for pointing out another substack i can block 🙃

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                      • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

                        @prism @zersiax @WeirdWriter
                        Thanks for pointing out another substack i can block 🙃

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                        @RnDanger @zersiax @WeirdWriter YW! One of the many valuable services I provide the fediverse.

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                        • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                          @zersiax @WeirdWriter Please don't. He gets enough attention as it is.

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                          @prism @zersiax There is also that guy that created the overlay fact sheet that also proudly published a blog post where he said all AI is the best thing for accessibility and everybody should embrace AI and I’m just so tired now. I can’t remember his name, but it’s really easy to find. He’s the guy that created the overlay fact sheet

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                          • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                            @prism @zersiax There is also that guy that created the overlay fact sheet that also proudly published a blog post where he said all AI is the best thing for accessibility and everybody should embrace AI and I’m just so tired now. I can’t remember his name, but it’s really easy to find. He’s the guy that created the overlay fact sheet

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                            @WeirdWriter @prism @zersiax Karl Groves

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                            • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                              @kirch @WeirdWriter Devs/laws move too slowly! I need my access now. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!

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                              @prism @kirch That was the extent of the conversation, and I just had to leave, I was so drained and just sigh and ugh

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                              • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                Had a blind person tell me today, offline, that they actually hope LLMs eliminate the need to go to websites because that would mean he would never have to fight an inaccessible website again, and I'm just sad forever now. It was somewhat similar to https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui #AI #LLM #WebDev #Accessibility

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                                @WeirdWriter I'm working with ancient heretical scripture at the moment and it's rather impressive what even tiny free local models can manage.

                                I have scripture speaking in tongues on a raspberry pi, whilst the content of the scripture is about the miracle of speaking in tongues.

                                I don't think you need to be blind to appreciate having a consistent workflow/interface, grep on steroids & translations aids.

                                Don't be sad that technology over 100yrs in development gave a blind person hope.

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                                • matt@toot.cafeM matt@toot.cafe

                                  @WeirdWriter @prism @zersiax Karl Groves

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                                  @matt @prism @zersiax That’s it! Yes! And he said nothing about local models VS cloud based ones, nothing about machine learning either. Gonna try to find it

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                                  • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                                    @kirch @WeirdWriter Devs/laws move too slowly! I need my access now. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!

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                                    @prism @kirch @WeirdWriter Well aren't we fussy and pouty. Giggle.

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                                    • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                      Had a blind person tell me today, offline, that they actually hope LLMs eliminate the need to go to websites because that would mean he would never have to fight an inaccessible website again, and I'm just sad forever now. It was somewhat similar to https://www.uxtigers.com/post/accessibility-generative-ui #AI #LLM #WebDev #Accessibility

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                                      @WeirdWriter I didn't know Jakob Nielsen was an AI booster now. Fun.

                                      I guess we should find the point at which it is no longer worth reading his stuff, or should all of it just be rejected?

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                                      • R rosalyn@mindly.social

                                        @prism @kirch @WeirdWriter Well aren't we fussy and pouty. Giggle.

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                                        @Rosalyn @kirch @WeirdWriter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrst8gmd9Cw

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                                        • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                                          @Rosalyn @kirch @WeirdWriter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrst8gmd9Cw

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                                          rosalyn@mindly.social
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                                          @prism @kirch @WeirdWriter Oh yes, darlin. I remember. But thank you for pointing out the obvious. 😛

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