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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @_Hemmschuh we are going to have fun with this in the forthcoming Regulation on ticketing being proposed later this spring by the European Commission.

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    @jon
    The big cheminot privilege: I rarely buy regular tickets 🫣

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    • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

      @jon
      The big cheminot privilege: I rarely buy regular tickets 🫣

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      @_Hemmschuh The big travel as much as I do: I rarely buy regular tickets (Interrail does very well out of me)

      But seriously, you've not forgotten what it's like to be a regular passenger, and that's important.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

        Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

        SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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        Right then

        Calm and on time TGV to Lille Flandres

        Finally getting close to today's target: the border north of Orchies 🇫🇷

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

          Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

          SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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          @jon From the point of view of a web user, saying "NO DETAILS AVAILABLE" would be far better than "EMPTY" since the latter would suggest to me "has no passengers on it".

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          • pseudomonas@mastodon.socialP pseudomonas@mastodon.social

            @jon From the point of view of a web user, saying "NO DETAILS AVAILABLE" would be far better than "EMPTY" since the latter would suggest to me "has no passengers on it".

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            @jon …obv a second thought would be "Why are you saying that a train's empty if you're selling tickets for it?" but even as a sometime database person, I wouldn't interpret EMPTY as I'm supposed to here; I'd expect NULL which to me means "someone's not very good at building UIs that talk to not-always-populated databases".

            ETA: ah, EMPTY is "it does have a value but it evaluates to a string with no content". (plus the "not very good at building &c. &c.")

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            • q@glauca.spaceQ q@glauca.space

              @16af93 @jon oh didn't even see that. gods how do you even manage that, surely everything is UTF-8 these days...

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              @q @16af93 @jon EBCDIC currently in the corner munching alternatingly on glue and half of all governments' and public infrastructure supporting code: HELLOW

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

                Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

                SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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                @jon Well, it‘s difficult, they just moved from Minitel to www in France!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Right then

                  Calm and on time TGV to Lille Flandres

                  Finally getting close to today's target: the border north of Orchies 🇫🇷

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                  There’s a sort of Takt here

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

                    Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

                    SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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                    @jon So in the SNCF planner there are fully booked trains, and there are empty trains. Makes sense

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      There’s a sort of Takt here

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                      And the Ma Gare SNCF App - about the only SNCF app with a passable UX - tells me my next train is on Platform 6

                      And passengers can share electric plugs 🔌

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        And the Ma Gare SNCF App - about the only SNCF app with a passable UX - tells me my next train is on Platform 6

                        And passengers can share electric plugs 🔌

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                        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 15 of 80
                        TER 41911
                        12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20
                        SNCF for TER Hauts de France

                        Train type: Alstom 2N NG EMU, 3 double deck carriages
                        ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                        🚲: ✅ (well designed space)
                        🦽: ✅ (step free)
                        🛜: ⛔️
                        🍽️: ⛔️
                        🧳: 🙂 (ok for a commuter service)
                        🧽: 🙂 (bit worn, but orderly)
                        Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 15 of 80
                          TER 41911
                          12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20
                          SNCF for TER Hauts de France

                          Train type: Alstom 2N NG EMU, 3 double deck carriages
                          ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                          🚲: ✅ (well designed space)
                          🦽: ✅ (step free)
                          🛜: ⛔️
                          🍽️: ⛔️
                          🧳: 🙂 (ok for a commuter service)
                          🧽: 🙂 (bit worn, but orderly)
                          Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                          TER 41911
                          12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20

                          Distance: 22km
                          Average speed: 88km/h

                          1 stops:
                          Orchies

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.556961/3.159943

                          #CrossBorderRail

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            TER 41911
                            12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20

                            Distance: 22km
                            Average speed: 88km/h

                            1 stops:
                            Orchies

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.556961/3.159943

                            #CrossBorderRail

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                            This is the type of #CrossBorderRail that’s great. I’ve never been to Orchies. I’ll likely never go again. But I’m sure I’ll stumble on some interesting things between there and Tournai 🇧🇪

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                              This is the type of #CrossBorderRail that’s great. I’ve never been to Orchies. I’ll likely never go again. But I’m sure I’ll stumble on some interesting things between there and Tournai 🇧🇪

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                              Nord - Pas de Calais lives! #CrossBorderRail

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                                Nord - Pas de Calais lives! #CrossBorderRail

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                                #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Bike 6 of 15
                                Orchies - Tournai

                                Distance: 26km
                                Est. duration: 2:00

                                This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.552816/3.310318

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Bike 6 of 15
                                  Orchies - Tournai

                                  Distance: 26km
                                  Est. duration: 2:00

                                  This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.552816/3.310318

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                                  Bachy

                                  La Gare

                                  No trains

                                  But there is covoiturage. Just as SNCF likes it! 🤪

                                  #CrossBorderRail

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Bachy

                                    La Gare

                                    No trains

                                    But there is covoiturage. Just as SNCF likes it! 🤪

                                    #CrossBorderRail

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                                    The #CrossBorderRail line used to run where this house is located. This one isn’t returning.

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                                      The #CrossBorderRail line used to run where this house is located. This one isn’t returning.

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                                      Mouchin Douane #CrossBorderRail

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                                        Mouchin Douane #CrossBorderRail

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                                        Gotta get your priorities right! #CrossBorderRail

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                          Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                          I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                          @jon yes, Römisches Theater is directly at the Roman Theater and at the Altstadt (City Center). But there are only regional Trains stopping here.

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