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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @_Hemmschuh Yes, sadly. But this is... tricky! There is no error shown!

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    @jon
    Yeah the blocked correspondances are not transparently shown sadly...

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      @jon
      Yeah the blocked correspondances are not transparently shown sadly...

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      @_Hemmschuh we are going to have fun with this in the forthcoming Regulation on ticketing being proposed later this spring by the European Commission.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @_Hemmschuh we are going to have fun with this in the forthcoming Regulation on ticketing being proposed later this spring by the European Commission.

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        @jon
        The big cheminot privilege: I rarely buy regular tickets 🫣

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        • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

          @jon
          The big cheminot privilege: I rarely buy regular tickets 🫣

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          @_Hemmschuh The big travel as much as I do: I rarely buy regular tickets (Interrail does very well out of me)

          But seriously, you've not forgotten what it's like to be a regular passenger, and that's important.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

            Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

            SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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            Right then

            Calm and on time TGV to Lille Flandres

            Finally getting close to today's target: the border north of Orchies 🇫🇷

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

              Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

              SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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              @jon From the point of view of a web user, saying "NO DETAILS AVAILABLE" would be far better than "EMPTY" since the latter would suggest to me "has no passengers on it".

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              • pseudomonas@mastodon.socialP pseudomonas@mastodon.social

                @jon From the point of view of a web user, saying "NO DETAILS AVAILABLE" would be far better than "EMPTY" since the latter would suggest to me "has no passengers on it".

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                @jon …obv a second thought would be "Why are you saying that a train's empty if you're selling tickets for it?" but even as a sometime database person, I wouldn't interpret EMPTY as I'm supposed to here; I'd expect NULL which to me means "someone's not very good at building UIs that talk to not-always-populated databases".

                ETA: ah, EMPTY is "it does have a value but it evaluates to a string with no content". (plus the "not very good at building &c. &c.")

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                • q@glauca.spaceQ q@glauca.space

                  @16af93 @jon oh didn't even see that. gods how do you even manage that, surely everything is UTF-8 these days...

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                  @q @16af93 @jon EBCDIC currently in the corner munching alternatingly on glue and half of all governments' and public infrastructure supporting code: HELLOW

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

                    Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

                    SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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                    @jon Well, it‘s difficult, they just moved from Minitel to www in France!

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Right then

                      Calm and on time TGV to Lille Flandres

                      Finally getting close to today's target: the border north of Orchies 🇫🇷

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                      There’s a sort of Takt here

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        I also really appreciate that - although it cannot sell me a ticket for it - SNCF *can* show me the Bruxelles - Brugge train, but does not know what type of train it is, so just puts EMPTY in the result

                        Like DB has been able to do this correctly in a web search since I did I first Interrail trip in 2001 (and yes that is not a typo)

                        SNCF Connect cannot do what DB search has been doing for at least 25 years

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                        @jon So in the SNCF planner there are fully booked trains, and there are empty trains. Makes sense

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          There’s a sort of Takt here

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                          And the Ma Gare SNCF App - about the only SNCF app with a passable UX - tells me my next train is on Platform 6

                          And passengers can share electric plugs 🔌

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            And the Ma Gare SNCF App - about the only SNCF app with a passable UX - tells me my next train is on Platform 6

                            And passengers can share electric plugs 🔌

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                            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 15 of 80
                            TER 41911
                            12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20
                            SNCF for TER Hauts de France

                            Train type: Alstom 2N NG EMU, 3 double deck carriages
                            ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                            🚲: ✅ (well designed space)
                            🦽: ✅ (step free)
                            🛜: ⛔️
                            🍽️: ⛔️
                            🧳: 🙂 (ok for a commuter service)
                            🧽: 🙂 (bit worn, but orderly)
                            Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 15 of 80
                              TER 41911
                              12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20
                              SNCF for TER Hauts de France

                              Train type: Alstom 2N NG EMU, 3 double deck carriages
                              ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                              🚲: ✅ (well designed space)
                              🦽: ✅ (step free)
                              🛜: ⛔️
                              🍽️: ⛔️
                              🧳: 🙂 (ok for a commuter service)
                              🧽: 🙂 (bit worn, but orderly)
                              Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              TER 41911
                              12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20

                              Distance: 22km
                              Average speed: 88km/h

                              1 stops:
                              Orchies

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.556961/3.159943

                              #CrossBorderRail

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                                TER 41911
                                12:05 Lille Flandres - Orchies 12:20

                                Distance: 22km
                                Average speed: 88km/h

                                1 stops:
                                Orchies

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.556961/3.159943

                                #CrossBorderRail

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                                This is the type of #CrossBorderRail that’s great. I’ve never been to Orchies. I’ll likely never go again. But I’m sure I’ll stumble on some interesting things between there and Tournai 🇧🇪

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  This is the type of #CrossBorderRail that’s great. I’ve never been to Orchies. I’ll likely never go again. But I’m sure I’ll stumble on some interesting things between there and Tournai 🇧🇪

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                                  Nord - Pas de Calais lives! #CrossBorderRail

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                                    Nord - Pas de Calais lives! #CrossBorderRail

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                                    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Bike 6 of 15
                                    Orchies - Tournai

                                    Distance: 26km
                                    Est. duration: 2:00

                                    This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.552816/3.310318

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Bike 6 of 15
                                      Orchies - Tournai

                                      Distance: 26km
                                      Est. duration: 2:00

                                      This bike route, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#12/50.552816/3.310318

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                                      Bachy

                                      La Gare

                                      No trains

                                      But there is covoiturage. Just as SNCF likes it! 🤪

                                      #CrossBorderRail

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                                        Bachy

                                        La Gare

                                        No trains

                                        But there is covoiturage. Just as SNCF likes it! 🤪

                                        #CrossBorderRail

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                                        The #CrossBorderRail line used to run where this house is located. This one isn’t returning.

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                                          The #CrossBorderRail line used to run where this house is located. This one isn’t returning.

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                                          Mouchin Douane #CrossBorderRail

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