/e/ and Murena have been been promoting their products by misleading people about GrapheneOS for years.
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Commercially developed exploits are widely deployed against users both online and in the physical world. Broadly using exploits against many people at a protest, crossing a border or visiting a high traffic website is not a small scale targeted attack. This is not going away.
/e/ and Murena have repeatedly repeated attacks by authoritarians on privacy technology by claiming without basis that GrapheneOS is mainly useful to criminals and used by criminals. They're claiming it about hardening against vulnerabilities in general:
GrapheneOS (@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social)
Attached: 1 video Gaël Duval is the founder and president of the /e/ foundation along with the CEO of Murena. Duval and his organizations have consistently taken a stance against protecting users from exploits. In this video, he once again claims protecting against exploits is only useful for pedophiles and spies. Translation to English: > There's the attack surface, on that front we're not security specialists here, so I couldn't answer you precisely, but from the discussions I've had, it seems that everything
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@GrapheneOS I never have been confronted with any of such content. I am not denying or doubting the existence, just sharing the experience I had.
I have once given /e/OS a try in hope, it would be an open-source mobile operating system alternative with high privacy/security means while being compatible with a more-than-average "sustainable" Fairphone (well, is there any truly sustainable phone?).
What drove me away, was the odd built-in VPN and the privacy tracker. In fact, I found the privacy specification with Facebook Lite already then odd.
@raisondetredev We've posted multiple recent threads directly linking to the content. They're heavily engaging in it right now. This thread we've posted is in direct response to escalating attacks from /e/, Murena and their supporters aiming to misrepresent the purpose of GrapheneOS and what ir provides. They also consistently twist us addressing it to correct the misconceptions into us being the aggressors despite them doing it for years prior to us regularly responding and still doing it.
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/e/ and Murena have repeatedly repeated attacks by authoritarians on privacy technology by claiming without basis that GrapheneOS is mainly useful to criminals and used by criminals. They're claiming it about hardening against vulnerabilities in general:
GrapheneOS (@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social)
Attached: 1 video Gaël Duval is the founder and president of the /e/ foundation along with the CEO of Murena. Duval and his organizations have consistently taken a stance against protecting users from exploits. In this video, he once again claims protecting against exploits is only useful for pedophiles and spies. Translation to English: > There's the attack surface, on that front we're not security specialists here, so I couldn't answer you precisely, but from the discussions I've had, it seems that everything
GrapheneOS Mastodon (grapheneos.social)
These inaccurate talking points used by /e/ and Murena to mislead people about the purpose of GrapheneOS, what it provides and who uses it are heavily propagated by their supporters to harm GrapheneOS in podcasts, blog posts, forums, social media and elsewhere. It's pervasive.
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@GrapheneOS
STOP BASHING OTHER ALTERNATIVE ANDROID ROMS@niavy @GrapheneOS Correcting misinformation and countering defamation is not disparagement.
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These inaccurate talking points used by /e/ and Murena to mislead people about the purpose of GrapheneOS, what it provides and who uses it are heavily propagated by their supporters to harm GrapheneOS in podcasts, blog posts, forums, social media and elsewhere. It's pervasive.
/e/ and Murena are based in France. Recently, France's national law enforcement has been smearing GrapheneOS, Signal and other privacy projects. They've heavily pushed the same false narrative as /e/ and Murena claiming GrapheneOS primarily benefits and is used by criminals.
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/e/ and Murena are based in France. Recently, France's national law enforcement has been smearing GrapheneOS, Signal and other privacy projects. They've heavily pushed the same false narrative as /e/ and Murena claiming GrapheneOS primarily benefits and is used by criminals.
Both state and corporate media in France repeated inaccurate claims from their nationa law enforcement without questioning it. They presented false claims about the features, distribution, marketing and userbase. They conflated it with sketchy products which aren't GrapheneOS.
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@GrapheneOS
Look, I am following both. GrapheneOS AND /e/.
I've NEVER read GrapheneOS-bashing logorrhea like yours towards main LineageOS-based ROMs.Really, stop victimising yourself and start acknowledging that every Google-shipped alternative ROM is a step towards better. Let users pick what they want.
"I've NEVER read GrapheneOS-bashing logorrhea like yours towards main LineageOS-based ROMs."
If the people behind /e/ and Murena and their accomplices stop their defamation and attacks, the “bashing” as you wrote can stop.
"and start acknowledging that every Google-shipped alternative ROM is a step towards better"
/e/OS is a significant step backward compared to AOSP and even LineageOS; it's not an improvement.
"Let users pick what they want."
Being aware of scams helps you make smarter choices. Freedom of choice should not be an excuse for remaining unaware of the pitfalls.
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Both state and corporate media in France repeated inaccurate claims from their nationa law enforcement without questioning it. They presented false claims about the features, distribution, marketing and userbase. They conflated it with sketchy products which aren't GrapheneOS.
/e/ and Murena are aligning themselves with these false narratives about genuine privacy and security projects. Their supporters are also aligning themselves with this. Their concept of privacy is control and surveillance by EU corporations and governments instead of the US.
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/e/ and Murena are aligning themselves with these false narratives about genuine privacy and security projects. Their supporters are also aligning themselves with this. Their concept of privacy is control and surveillance by EU corporations and governments instead of the US.
Podcast Projets Libres heavily promotes /e/ and Murena. They've consistently misrepresented the GrapheneOS project to promote those. Our corrections have consistently been ignored. They recently published an episode heavily pushing many of these false narratives about GrapheneOS.
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