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  • w_b@mastodon.worldW w_b@mastodon.world

    @kusuriya @sundogplanets

    ELNO! If it's a typo or intentional, either way, I love it.

    Maybe best pronounced in a cockney accent 'Elno

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    @w_b @sundogplanets Oh its intentional, I dont want to besmirch Elmo's name, hes doing good things for the children everywhere. Elno on the other hand...

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

      Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

      Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

      Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

      This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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      @sundogplanets

      Ok. Maybe stupid question, but why is regulation left to the FCC? I get that they should regulate the radio frequencies, but their orbits?

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

        Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

        Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

        Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

        This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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        @sundogplanets I'm really interested in (and started investing in) https://ast-science.com/ , their model is to use satellites that can communicate with normal 5G etc. It will destroy Starlink, and they're planning on using ~200 satellites

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

          Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

          Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

          Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

          This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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          @sundogplanets And just so you can doomscroll in the middle of the Pacific Ocean

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          • amfernee@gardenstate.clubA amfernee@gardenstate.club

            @sundogplanets I'm really interested in (and started investing in) https://ast-science.com/ , their model is to use satellites that can communicate with normal 5G etc. It will destroy Starlink, and they're planning on using ~200 satellites

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            @amfernee With tennis-court sized satellites that are brighter than the brightest stars in the sky. I hate them.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              @amfernee With tennis-court sized satellites that are brighter than the brightest stars in the sky. I hate them.

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              @amfernee They will also completely destroy radio astronomy, and are using amateur radio bands. They're pretty awful overall. Please don't invest in them.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                @amfernee They will also completely destroy radio astronomy, and are using amateur radio bands. They're pretty awful overall. Please don't invest in them.

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                @sundogplanets oof. well, do we hate them.. more or less than Starlink?

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                • amfernee@gardenstate.clubA amfernee@gardenstate.club

                  @sundogplanets oof. well, do we hate them.. more or less than Starlink?

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                  @amfernee They won't replace starlink, they aren't providing internet service. They are completely redundant with cell towers. They also are not even trying to get their satellites fainter, because they say it's impossible. And they will provide a huge debris cross-section, so also pretty bad for Kessler Syndrome. So, I hate them more.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    @amfernee They won't replace starlink, they aren't providing internet service. They are completely redundant with cell towers. They also are not even trying to get their satellites fainter, because they say it's impossible. And they will provide a huge debris cross-section, so also pretty bad for Kessler Syndrome. So, I hate them more.

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                    @amfernee I wrote this op-ed about them (and other satellite constellations) a couple years ago for Nature: https://rdcu.be/drQOU

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      @amfernee I wrote this op-ed about them (and other satellite constellations) a couple years ago for Nature: https://rdcu.be/drQOU

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                      @sundogplanets I'll read, thanks for sharing!

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                      • amfernee@gardenstate.clubA amfernee@gardenstate.club

                        @sundogplanets I'll read, thanks for sharing!

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                        @amfernee Thank you for reading!

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

                          Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

                          Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

                          Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

                          This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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                          @sundogplanets the sky above the port was the colour of… oh FFS!

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                          • S savera@mastodon.sdf.org

                            @Brokar @sundogplanets @wraptile I’ll have you know that I’m not the malicious type.

                            I wonder if these sats are protected against laser mischief makers. You know like they used to do with airplanes.

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                            @savera they are way too far for any commercial lasers to reach

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                            • wraptile@fosstodon.orgW wraptile@fosstodon.org

                              @sundogplanets and for what?

                              I did some napkin math some time ago: all these satellites cost around 10-15B usd to deploy. This would be equivalent of 0.5 - 1 million cell towers at 10-20k usd (yeah that cheap).
                              There are currently 7 million cell towers worldwide most of which are old and under-performing. With 1 million NEW cell towers with economies of scale we could have probably covered the same actual reach with better latency, access and affordability.

                              Low orbit internet is a joke.

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                              @wraptile @sundogplanets I meant to post this as a reply:

                              ToroidalCore (@toroidalcore@masto.hackers.town)

                              I've wondered if Starlink would've made sense for them if fiber had been built out everywhere it was promised. (That is, the 'fiber is 100 ft away but $ISP won't connect me' crowd.) I still get Starlink adds in my area, even though wired internet is available and a much better value. (I put my address in back in the day, so presumably there is some targetting.)

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

                                Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

                                Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

                                Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

                                This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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                                @sundogplanets Don't you just hate it when a comet photobombs your satellite images?

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Some questions that keep coming up:
                                  There are gaps in the lines because this is a bunch of shorter exposures over the course of 10 minutes added together

                                  Kessler Syndrome is extremely bad for everybody, don't hope for it (though on my grumpier days I can definitely understand that perspective)

                                  The many parallel lines come from the orbits that have been chosen by megaconstellation operators, mostly Starlink. You can see that somewhat in various satellite visualizers like https://satellitetracker3d.com/

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                                  @sundogplanets "oh, but Kessler syndrome will just destroy all their stuff! Didn't you say that's good?"
                                  <infinite_screaming.gif>

                                  It's fine. It's FINE. IT'S FINE!
                                  Who the fuck needs ships that can navigate the oceans or an ozone layer or even an atmosphere or working communications infrastructure anyway?

                                  <imagine me slamming my head into the wall repeatedly>

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Don't worry, Sam, SpaceX won't ACTUALLY launch 7,000 satellites! (There are currently 10,296 Starlink sats in orbit)

                                    Don't worry, SpaceX said they'd get their satellites below magnitude 7! (They have not https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/link_gateway/2025MNRAS.544L..15M/PUB_PDF)

                                    Don't worry, they won't actually start Kessler Syndrome! https://outerspaceinstitute.ca/crashclock/

                                    Don't worry, they won't actually launch a million AI data centres into orbit!! https://theconversation.com/a-new-space-race-could-turn-our-atmosphere-into-a-crematorium-for-satellites-276366

                                    This is the fucking worst I-told-you-so https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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                                    @sundogplanets it's horrifying. You get to see the grid into which our sky has been broken and bought up.

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                                    • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

                                      @sundogplanets "oh, but Kessler syndrome will just destroy all their stuff! Didn't you say that's good?"
                                      <infinite_screaming.gif>

                                      It's fine. It's FINE. IT'S FINE!
                                      Who the fuck needs ships that can navigate the oceans or an ozone layer or even an atmosphere or working communications infrastructure anyway?

                                      <imagine me slamming my head into the wall repeatedly>

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                                      @rootwyrm Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one head-wall-slamming

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                                      • M michkov@mas.to

                                        @sundogplanets Don't you just hate it when a comet photobombs your satellite images?

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                                        @Michkov Can you please say this to all the people who replied to this image "ack-chew-ally I think this new sky-grid is beautiful"

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          @Michkov Can you please say this to all the people who replied to this image "ack-chew-ally I think this new sky-grid is beautiful"

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                                          @Michkov (only mostly kidding)

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