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So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works.

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  • jimmyhoke@fosstodon.orgJ jimmyhoke@fosstodon.org

    @GossiTheDog

    Rememeber: never ask “is this Microsoft security product backdoored?”

    Instead ask: “how exactly is it backdoored? How many back doors are there?”

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    @GossiTheDog Also: that’s worse?

    - Microsoft and intentionally backdooring BitLocker
    - Microsoft unintentionally backdooring bitlocker

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

      Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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      @GossiTheDog great

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        I think my prior toot on NightmareEclipse auto deleted so to make a perm one - it isn’t me. I suspect it’s somebody who used to work at MSFT, who departed after my era.

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        #25

        For anybody looking at this, testing showed two things:

        - TPM unlocked the storage
        - it provides a login bypass, as you’re dumped as SYSTEM prior to Windows Hello or password login

        BitLocker operates without a PIN by default so it’s basically a big gap, it’s unclear how this code made it into the production version of Windows.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          For anybody looking at this, testing showed two things:

          - TPM unlocked the storage
          - it provides a login bypass, as you’re dumped as SYSTEM prior to Windows Hello or password login

          BitLocker operates without a PIN by default so it’s basically a big gap, it’s unclear how this code made it into the production version of Windows.

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          #26

          I should point out I’ve only tested with one version of Windows 11 - maybe the scope is smaller.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

            Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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            @GossiTheDog I'd be highly surprised if it didn't have a backdoor. Microsoft is not a company you should trust
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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

              Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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              #28

              @GossiTheDog

              I was worried I'd run out of tools that do not require opening a computer/laptop case, now that Microsoft's planning to patch Bitpixie this year.

              But Windows is a gift that just keeps on giving

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                #29

                @GossiTheDog I always assumed anything that could unlock an encrypted drive with no password or other authentication from the user could be bypassed. I figured if you don't have to enter a password, you have to assume that neither does anybody else.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                  Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                  @GossiTheDog hi just out of curiosity why would a bios password help / be required? is that only for if pcr7 isn't bound?

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                    Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                    Poc @sebsauvage

                    @GossiTheDog

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                    • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                      Poc @sebsauvage

                      @GossiTheDog

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                      @tanavit @GossiTheDog
                      Haha oui j'ai vu passer ça, ainsi qu'une faille RCE dans Word.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                        Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                        #33

                        @GossiTheDog why is Microsoft so lazy when it comes to developing mission critical software

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                        • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                          @mkoek @GossiTheDog you can also usually get the same general result in this config by poking the motherboard with a logic analyser and dumping the TPM data off the bus.

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                          @gsuberland @mkoek @GossiTheDog Unless Microsoft made another mistake this shouldn't be possible. Accessing disk encryption keys should always use what is called a "salted session", where the communication between TPM and application is encrypted, precisely to prevent passive attacks on the bus.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                            Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                            @GossiTheDog

                            @drm Plus besoin de s'embêter à faire du TPM sniffing

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                              Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                              #36

                              @GossiTheDog thanks God i can recover an Old ssd whose bitlocker key is somewhere in the short-circuited mainboard Something Something Secure Module and I happen to not have a backup of that specific bitlocker key

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                              • s1m@infosec.exchangeS s1m@infosec.exchange

                                @GossiTheDog

                                @drm Plus besoin de s'embêter à faire du TPM sniffing

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                                @S1m @GossiTheDog testé hier par un collègue, ça marche bien ! Mais ça va être rapidement patché... 😭

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                                • drm@mastodon.socialD drm@mastodon.social

                                  @S1m @GossiTheDog testé hier par un collègue, ça marche bien ! Mais ça va être rapidement patché... 😭

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                                  @drm @GossiTheDog Toujours à la pointe les collègues. C'est pas un patch qui nécessite une mise à jour des certifs secureboot ça ? Le genre de mise à jour qui est toujours retardée

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                                  • s1m@infosec.exchangeS s1m@infosec.exchange

                                    @drm @GossiTheDog Toujours à la pointe les collègues. C'est pas un patch qui nécessite une mise à jour des certifs secureboot ça ? Le genre de mise à jour qui est toujours retardée

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                                    @S1m @GossiTheDog 💪🏼. Je crois que tu confonds avec cette vuln https://github.com/garatc/BitUnlocker

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      So I’ve just had a quick play with this and yes, it works. Essentially BitLocker has a backdoor. https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

                                      Mitigation = BitLocker PIN and BIOS password lock.

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                                      @GossiTheDog I suspect you have that NSA key set. 😉

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                                      • drm@mastodon.socialD drm@mastodon.social

                                        @S1m @GossiTheDog 💪🏼. Je crois que tu confonds avec cette vuln https://github.com/garatc/BitUnlocker

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                                        @drm @GossiTheDog Ah bah j'ai toujours cru que Bitlocker était by-design vuln aux downgrade attacks

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                                        • prsfalken@mastodon.socialP prsfalken@mastodon.social

                                          @barubary @GossiTheDog It might be a "We've to deliver this and test this quicker" and someone forgot to remove.

                                          A backdoor implies planning and we're talking about Microsoft.

                                          I'd bet for bad QA and controls and lazy development with a pinch of "hurry, deliver now"

                                          Which is ... Worse?

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                                          @prsfalken @barubary @GossiTheDog they’re excellent at planning Copilot and spyware integrations, though.

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