Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here.
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There is no math that has a Dem win the presidential election without massive turnout from and support from, Black voters.
Buttigieg will not get that.
For the same reason that Biden's second attempt couldn't get that.
It's a self-defeating strategy to try to run people with this record.
The Democratic party will not win in 2028. Their failures in resisting the disastrous and unpopular policies of Donald Trump will guarantee that.
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Because people infantilize Black folk, in particular Black men, they usually assume that they have more info than Black men voters, and make better decisions than us when presented with the same info.
️No one bothered to do what you did (ask Black men why they didn't like Buttigieg as a candidate).
@mekkaokereke That's... wow. I did not know. My hopes for him just vanished faster than my hope for humanity.
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There is no math that has a Dem win the presidential election without massive turnout from and support from, Black voters.
Buttigieg will not get that.
For the same reason that Biden's second attempt couldn't get that.
It's a self-defeating strategy to try to run people with this record.
Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
️In 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
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Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
️In 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
🧙️Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.️Talarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
️But Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
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Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.️Talarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
️But Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
️The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
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Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
️In 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
🧙️@mekkaokereke the way the eyes almost line up in the third post there is disconcerting
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@mekkaokereke That's... wow. I did not know. My hopes for him just vanished faster than my hope for humanity.
@ysotomayor @mekkaokereke Humanity will do just fine without the USA. Arguably better after the initial adjustment period.
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The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
️@mekkaokereke Is there a Dem out there that Black men would vote for?
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@mekkaokereke Is there a Dem out there that Black men would vote for?
Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.
Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.
He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.
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The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
️@mekkaokereke shoot, well this was disappointing to learn about Buttigieg. Thank you for all your posts.
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After all this, Buttigieg was polling at an impressive 0% with Black voters. Zero.
The press speculated that Black voters might not like Buttigieg because he is gay, essentially accusing all Black voters of homophobia (even the gay ones).
️Buttigieg leaned into this trope.
@mekkaokereke
I consider myself to be someone who follows US political news, yet I never heard about this in the 2020 primary. This thing with the tapes alone should disqualify the guy from consideration. I considered voting for him in that primary, but the whole thing was over by the time my chance to vote (not-so-Super-Tuesday). Now I'll never vote for him. -
Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.️Talarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
️But Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
️I didn't know that about Buttigieg, thank you for your ongoing education work.
The fact that dems are pushing Newsom is disgusting.
I hate Rahm Immanuel and just seeing his name is enough to upset me. He doesn't care about basic human rights as far as I can tell.
It is so obvious that democratic leadership wants to be seen as the good guys without doing the work of power sharing with the governed instead of the fascists.
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I didn't know that about Buttigieg, thank you for your ongoing education work.
The fact that dems are pushing Newsom is disgusting.
I hate Rahm Immanuel and just seeing his name is enough to upset me. He doesn't care about basic human rights as far as I can tell.
It is so obvious that democratic leadership wants to be seen as the good guys without doing the work of power sharing with the governed instead of the fascists.
@vervain @mekkaokereke THAT LAST PART. 🤬🤬🤬
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Lots of folks!
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@jennifersmith@mastodon.online Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff. Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg. He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s
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Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.
Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.
Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.
But it gets worse...
@mekkaokereke It goes from bad to worse to
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There were allegations that Buttigieg donors were on the tapes that the police chief recorded, plotting with the officers on how to get rid of all the Black people in city leadership.
The Black community wanted to know if this was true. Buttigieg refused to release the tapes.
But it gets worse...
@mekkaokereke I didn't know this about Buttigieg. I wrongly presumed that the US media was forming its opinions by actually talking to people. I need to stop presuming competence until I see competence demonstrated
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Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.
Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.
He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.
@mekkaokereke I'm not American so maybe that explains this, but I've never heard of Ossoff.
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@mekkaokereke I didn't know this about Buttigieg. I wrongly presumed that the US media was forming its opinions by actually talking to people. I need to stop presuming competence until I see competence demonstrated
️@mekkaokereke I'm impressed that historically Black churches have moved from being among the least accepting of homosexuality in 2007 to being among the most accepting in 2023.
It seems possible that the US media is still rooted in outdated data. That isn't excusable.
16. Religion and views on LGBTQ issues and abortion
Read more about how U.S. religious groups see abortion and same-sex marriage, as well as society’s acceptance of homosexuality and transgender people. Religious Landscape Study by Pew Research Center.
Pew Research Center (www.pewresearch.org)
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Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.
Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.
Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.
But it gets worse...
@mekkaokereke ugh, there’s something uniquely terrible about white gay men, especially ones that can code switch or mask when needed, because they don’t have to live with their marginalized identities AND they don’t have to be around other marginalized people. At least my husband gets a front row seat to what it’s like for me being a woman in tech these days.
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Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.
Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.
He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.
@mekkaokereke @gdinwiddie @jennifersmith is Ossof talking about a Presidential run? Interesting!
