Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here.
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Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.
Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.
Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.
But it gets worse...
When Buttigieg took office, there were only 3 Black people in leadership positions in South Bend, including that police chief. Within 6 months there were zero.
But it gets worse...
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When Buttigieg took office, there were only 3 Black people in leadership positions in South Bend, including that police chief. Within 6 months there were zero.
But it gets worse...
There were allegations that Buttigieg donors were on the tapes that the police chief recorded, plotting with the officers on how to get rid of all the Black people in city leadership.
The Black community wanted to know if this was true. Buttigieg refused to release the tapes.
But it gets worse...
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There were allegations that Buttigieg donors were on the tapes that the police chief recorded, plotting with the officers on how to get rid of all the Black people in city leadership.
The Black community wanted to know if this was true. Buttigieg refused to release the tapes.
But it gets worse...
After all this, Buttigieg was polling at an impressive 0% with Black voters. Zero.
The press speculated that Black voters might not like Buttigieg because he is gay, essentially accusing all Black voters of homophobia (even the gay ones).
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๏ธButtigieg leaned into this trope.
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After all this, Buttigieg was polling at an impressive 0% with Black voters. Zero.
The press speculated that Black voters might not like Buttigieg because he is gay, essentially accusing all Black voters of homophobia (even the gay ones).
โ๏ธButtigieg leaned into this trope.
Because people infantilize Black folk, in particular Black men, they usually assume that they have more info than Black men voters, and make better decisions than us when presented with the same info.
โ๏ธNo one bothered to do what you did (ask Black men why they didn't like Buttigieg as a candidate).
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After all this, Buttigieg was polling at an impressive 0% with Black voters. Zero.
The press speculated that Black voters might not like Buttigieg because he is gay, essentially accusing all Black voters of homophobia (even the gay ones).
โ๏ธButtigieg leaned into this trope.
@mekkaokereke I assume as far as the democrats are concerned itโs besides the point. Theyโll continue shaming people who wonโt pick the lesser of two evils because thatโs worked really well so far.
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Because people infantilize Black folk, in particular Black men, they usually assume that they have more info than Black men voters, and make better decisions than us when presented with the same info.
โ๏ธNo one bothered to do what you did (ask Black men why they didn't like Buttigieg as a candidate).
White people that don't talk to or listen to enough Black people still believe that Buttigieg can be president in 2028.
โ๏ธBut that will never happen.
I said what I said. In 2020 Black men like me called the exact point his campaign would go from "surging
" to collapse.We were right then and now.
Which is why articles like this are silly.
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White people that don't talk to or listen to enough Black people still believe that Buttigieg can be president in 2028.
โ๏ธBut that will never happen.
I said what I said. In 2020 Black men like me called the exact point his campaign would go from "surging
" to collapse.We were right then and now.
Which is why articles like this are silly.
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There is no math that has a Dem win the presidential election without massive turnout from and support from, Black voters.
Buttigieg will not get that.
For the same reason that Biden's second attempt couldn't get that.
It's a self-defeating strategy to try to run people with this record.
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There is no math that has a Dem win the presidential election without massive turnout from and support from, Black voters.
Buttigieg will not get that.
For the same reason that Biden's second attempt couldn't get that.
It's a self-defeating strategy to try to run people with this record.
The Democratic party will not win in 2028. Their failures in resisting the disastrous and unpopular policies of Donald Trump will guarantee that.
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Because people infantilize Black folk, in particular Black men, they usually assume that they have more info than Black men voters, and make better decisions than us when presented with the same info.
โ๏ธNo one bothered to do what you did (ask Black men why they didn't like Buttigieg as a candidate).
@mekkaokereke That's... wow. I did not know. My hopes for him just vanished faster than my hope for humanity.
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There is no math that has a Dem win the presidential election without massive turnout from and support from, Black voters.
Buttigieg will not get that.
For the same reason that Biden's second attempt couldn't get that.
It's a self-defeating strategy to try to run people with this record.
Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
โ๏ธIn 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
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Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
โ๏ธIn 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
๐งโ๏ธBecerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.โ๏ธTalarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
โ๏ธBut Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
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Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.โ๏ธTalarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
โ๏ธBut Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
โ๏ธThe best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
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Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.
Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.
Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.
โ๏ธIn 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
๐งโ๏ธ@mekkaokereke the way the eyes almost line up in the third post there is disconcerting
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@mekkaokereke That's... wow. I did not know. My hopes for him just vanished faster than my hope for humanity.
@ysotomayor @mekkaokereke Humanity will do just fine without the USA. Arguably better after the initial adjustment period.
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The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
โ๏ธ@mekkaokereke Is there a Dem out there that Black men would vote for?
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@mekkaokereke Is there a Dem out there that Black men would vote for?
Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.
Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.
He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.
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The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.
Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!
"Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.
โ๏ธ@mekkaokereke shoot, well this was disappointing to learn about Buttigieg. Thank you for all your posts.
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After all this, Buttigieg was polling at an impressive 0% with Black voters. Zero.
The press speculated that Black voters might not like Buttigieg because he is gay, essentially accusing all Black voters of homophobia (even the gay ones).
โ๏ธButtigieg leaned into this trope.
@mekkaokereke
I consider myself to be someone who follows US political news, yet I never heard about this in the 2020 primary. This thing with the tapes alone should disqualify the guy from consideration. I considered voting for him in that primary, but the whole thing was over by the time my chance to vote (not-so-Super-Tuesday). Now I'll never vote for him. -
Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California.
Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.โ๏ธTalarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.
โ๏ธBut Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.
You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.
It's not going to happen.
All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.
And we're not going to do that for these dudes.
โ๏ธI didn't know that about Buttigieg, thank you for your ongoing education work.
The fact that dems are pushing Newsom is disgusting.
I hate Rahm Immanuel and just seeing his name is enough to upset me. He doesn't care about basic human rights as far as I can tell.
It is so obvious that democratic leadership wants to be seen as the good guys without doing the work of power sharing with the governed instead of the fascists.
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I didn't know that about Buttigieg, thank you for your ongoing education work.
The fact that dems are pushing Newsom is disgusting.
I hate Rahm Immanuel and just seeing his name is enough to upset me. He doesn't care about basic human rights as far as I can tell.
It is so obvious that democratic leadership wants to be seen as the good guys without doing the work of power sharing with the governed instead of the fascists.
@vervain @mekkaokereke THAT LAST PART. ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ
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