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  • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

    Going to be redoing my website this week. I'd ideally like something lightweight and rock-solid that mostly works with static content, but I would like to have the option to add very limited eCommerce, comment form and contact form options at a later stage. WordPress seems vastly overkill for this, while I was mildly underwhelmed by #ghost last time I tried, partially due to the #accessibility of the backoffice lagging behind where I'd like it to be.
    What would be good for this, something based on #astro perhaps? Eleventy? Roll my own? #webdev #indieWeb

    frasermclean@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @zersiax I highly recommend Astro if you have some development skills. I've been using it for my own site and I love it.

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    • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

      Going to be redoing my website this week. I'd ideally like something lightweight and rock-solid that mostly works with static content, but I would like to have the option to add very limited eCommerce, comment form and contact form options at a later stage. WordPress seems vastly overkill for this, while I was mildly underwhelmed by #ghost last time I tried, partially due to the #accessibility of the backoffice lagging behind where I'd like it to be.
      What would be good for this, something based on #astro perhaps? Eleventy? Roll my own? #webdev #indieWeb

      menelion@dragonscave.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @zersiax Vibe code a few PHP files, wrap into a Docker container (I can give you my docker compose if you wish). Thus you'll be free to implement eCommerce in future.

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      • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

        Going to be redoing my website this week. I'd ideally like something lightweight and rock-solid that mostly works with static content, but I would like to have the option to add very limited eCommerce, comment form and contact form options at a later stage. WordPress seems vastly overkill for this, while I was mildly underwhelmed by #ghost last time I tried, partially due to the #accessibility of the backoffice lagging behind where I'd like it to be.
        What would be good for this, something based on #astro perhaps? Eleventy? Roll my own? #webdev #indieWeb

        grumpyoldtechie@hostux.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        @zersiax I use hugo to generate static content there are other static site generators if hugo doesn’t do it for you. It was surprisingly easy to integrate e-commerce when I had to but adding comments and forms were more difficult but not too difficult. You can really host hugo sites almost anywhere.

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        • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

          Going to be redoing my website this week. I'd ideally like something lightweight and rock-solid that mostly works with static content, but I would like to have the option to add very limited eCommerce, comment form and contact form options at a later stage. WordPress seems vastly overkill for this, while I was mildly underwhelmed by #ghost last time I tried, partially due to the #accessibility of the backoffice lagging behind where I'd like it to be.
          What would be good for this, something based on #astro perhaps? Eleventy? Roll my own? #webdev #indieWeb

          jscholes@dragonscave.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @zersiax @KaraLG84 Eleventy would be my vote for a static site generator if you don't mind writing JavaScript and being opinionated yourself about project structure. Add those other things via alternative services, like Stripe links.

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          • jscholes@dragonscave.spaceJ jscholes@dragonscave.space

            @zersiax @KaraLG84 Eleventy would be my vote for a static site generator if you don't mind writing JavaScript and being opinionated yourself about project structure. Add those other things via alternative services, like Stripe links.

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            @jscholes@dragonscave.space @zersiax@cupoftea.social @KaraLG84@dragonscave.space it's going to be interesting to see where Eleventy is heading, now that it's becoming "Build Awesome."

            A few options that might be worth considering and don't depend on the JavaScript ecosystem —and all that that brings with it— in no particular order: Hugo (Go) Jekyll (Ruby), Pelican (Python), BSSG (Bash), and Zine (Zig).

            A potentially useful resource is https://www.jamstack.org

            I was personally rebuilding my blog using Hugo (coming from Ghost), but I've been reconsidering that choice for other reasons, and was looking at some of the ones I mentioned above. Right now I'm personally leaning towards Nikola (Python), but have not fully made up my mind just yet.

            I hope this helps!
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            • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

              Going to be redoing my website this week. I'd ideally like something lightweight and rock-solid that mostly works with static content, but I would like to have the option to add very limited eCommerce, comment form and contact form options at a later stage. WordPress seems vastly overkill for this, while I was mildly underwhelmed by #ghost last time I tried, partially due to the #accessibility of the backoffice lagging behind where I'd like it to be.
              What would be good for this, something based on #astro perhaps? Eleventy? Roll my own? #webdev #indieWeb

              khleedril@cyberplace.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @zersiax If you are capable of rolling your own, why don't you do that? In small steps, you can make it exactly how you like it.

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              • khleedril@cyberplace.socialK khleedril@cyberplace.social

                @zersiax If you are capable of rolling your own, why don't you do that? In small steps, you can make it exactly how you like it.

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                @khleedril Honestly lack of time, mostly. HAVING a place where I can wax poetic about all the things I do is something i'd like. MAKING that place, less so. Tinkering with it, adding to something that already works, sure, but achieving escape velocity is the drudgery part for me

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                • jibsaram@68k.socialJ jibsaram@68k.social
                  @jscholes@dragonscave.space @zersiax@cupoftea.social @KaraLG84@dragonscave.space it's going to be interesting to see where Eleventy is heading, now that it's becoming "Build Awesome."

                  A few options that might be worth considering and don't depend on the JavaScript ecosystem —and all that that brings with it— in no particular order: Hugo (Go) Jekyll (Ruby), Pelican (Python), BSSG (Bash), and Zine (Zig).

                  A potentially useful resource is https://www.jamstack.org

                  I was personally rebuilding my blog using Hugo (coming from Ghost), but I've been reconsidering that choice for other reasons, and was looking at some of the ones I mentioned above. Right now I'm personally leaning towards Nikola (Python), but have not fully made up my mind just yet.

                  I hope this helps!
                  zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jibsaram @jscholes @KaraLG84 That is honestly why I am hesitating re: Eleventy. I've been meaning to properly check it out but I'm not sure I like what I'm seeing as of late.
                  Hugo, Jekyl and Astro are on my list to look into but this link for sure has some extra bits, thanks for sharing!

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                  • grumpyoldtechie@hostux.socialG grumpyoldtechie@hostux.social

                    @zersiax I use hugo to generate static content there are other static site generators if hugo doesn’t do it for you. It was surprisingly easy to integrate e-commerce when I had to but adding comments and forms were more difficult but not too difficult. You can really host hugo sites almost anywhere.

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                    @grumpyoldtechie how did you end up adding eCommerce/forms, something like FormSpree/other third party SAAS options?

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                    • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

                      @jibsaram @jscholes @KaraLG84 That is honestly why I am hesitating re: Eleventy. I've been meaning to properly check it out but I'm not sure I like what I'm seeing as of late.
                      Hugo, Jekyl and Astro are on my list to look into but this link for sure has some extra bits, thanks for sharing!

                      jscholes@dragonscave.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @zersiax Are there any materials (blog posts, discussion threads, etc.) suggesting that there is gonna be some sort of shift away from Eleventy maintenance? @jibsaram @KaraLG84

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                      • menelion@dragonscave.spaceM menelion@dragonscave.space

                        @zersiax Vibe code a few PHP files, wrap into a Docker container (I can give you my docker compose if you wish). Thus you'll be free to implement eCommerce in future.

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                        @menelion hah, I don't need to vibe code PHP if that's what I end up going with, wrote PHP for a living for years. Would actually love to spin up a Laravel project again to see what's changed but I hear frightening tales about a weird new commercial direction they're heading in

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                        • frasermclean@mastodon.socialF frasermclean@mastodon.social

                          @zersiax I highly recommend Astro if you have some development skills. I've been using it for my own site and I love it.

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                          @frasermclean yeah Astro might be the ticket, I'm mostly a back-end guy but Astro seems to be a good JS gateway drug without getting into the weeds too much

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                          • zersiax@cupoftea.socialZ zersiax@cupoftea.social

                            @menelion hah, I don't need to vibe code PHP if that's what I end up going with, wrote PHP for a living for years. Would actually love to spin up a Laravel project again to see what's changed but I hear frightening tales about a weird new commercial direction they're heading in

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                            @zersiax Oh no no, it's overkill. I didn't spin up Symfony there, as much I like it.

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