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Dear app developers,I have never had the desire to review an app.

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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    @drsbaitso @malwarejake I'm imaging how this would go in the pre-app era, when you had to call a human agent to track the package:

    "Fedex, can I help you?"

    "Yes, I'd like to track a package."

    "OK, but first, I need you to tell me if you love me."

    "What?"

    "I can't do this anymore if I don't feel loved and appreciated."

    "Um, I just want to track a package."

    "Yes, yes. Of course you do, That's what I thought. I suppose I'm not worthy of love. I have to hang up now. I'll be thinking of you."

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    @mattblaze @malwarejake "Oh, I'll be thinking of you too. Not fondly."

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      @malwarejake I'm especially put off by the popups that interrupt me as soon as I open the app. "Do you love the FedEx app?" No, I just want to track my fucking package. And that's a really stalker-y way to ask, frankly.

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      #15

      @mattblaze @malwarejake worse, most of them shouldn't even be apps to begin with! I just want to track my fucking package; that's a web page not a goddamn app!

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      • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

        Dear app developers,
        I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
        Sincerely,
        Every smartphone user ever

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        #16

        @malwarejake Especially if you have the “Don’t asks for reviews” flag set. 🙄

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        • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

          @mattblaze @malwarejake I leave a negative review every time this happens.

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          #17

          @jernej__s
          This is the way
          @mattblaze @malwarejake

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          • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

            Dear app developers,
            I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
            Sincerely,
            Every smartphone user ever

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            #18

            @malwarejake I normally review apps that constantly nudge with a 1 star.

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            • kishi@meow.socialK kishi@meow.social

              @jernej__s
              This is the way
              @mattblaze @malwarejake

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              #19

              @Kishi @jernej__s @malwarejake I wonder if it is, in a world where metrics of “engagement” are more valued than actual quality.

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              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                @Kishi @jernej__s @malwarejake I wonder if it is, in a world where metrics of “engagement” are more valued than actual quality.

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                @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake

                Yeah, there is that as well, but at that point, they might as well begin counting "tap away or close" as a positive engagement. Not sure if we're at that point, but right now, everything stupid seems plausible.

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  @malwarejake I'm especially put off by the popups that interrupt me as soon as I open the app. "Do you love the FedEx app?" No, I just want to track my fucking package. And that's a really stalker-y way to ask, frankly.

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                  @mattblaze Right?! There must be better ways to work the request into the application flow instead of it getting in the way of what you were doing.

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    @malwarejake I'm especially put off by the popups that interrupt me as soon as I open the app. "Do you love the FedEx app?" No, I just want to track my fucking package. And that's a really stalker-y way to ask, frankly.

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                    #22

                    @mattblaze @malwarejake An authentication token I’m forced to use for work popped one of those review begs up for me recently *before it let me see the token code*. The best user opinion an application like that can ever hope for is “inoffensive”, and getting in my way makes it decidedly not inoffensive.

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                    • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                      Dear app developers,
                      I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                      Sincerely,
                      Every smartphone user ever

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                      #23

                      @malwarejake @sebsauvage

                      Hoooooo yeeeesss !!!

                      And also docker is NOT an app/program ....

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                      • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                        Dear app developers,
                        I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                        Sincerely,
                        Every smartphone user ever

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                        #24

                        @malwarejake Anything that ever asks me to review it gets 1 star.

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                        • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                          Dear app developers,
                          I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                          Sincerely,
                          Every smartphone user ever

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                          @malwarejake I actually have sometimes wanted to review an. But only when it's a POS

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                          • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                            Dear app developers,
                            I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                            Sincerely,
                            Every smartphone user ever

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                            @malwarejake Just give it one star and say you're doing it because the prompt to review is intrusive.

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                            • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                              Dear app developers,
                              I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                              Sincerely,
                              Every smartphone user ever

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                              #27

                              @malwarejake I've worked in mobile gaming for years. The reason they push so hard is because app store ranking has a DIRECT correlation to number of users coming into the app, and thus engagement and money.

                              The PM will push the prompt when they fix any issues that were dragging down metrics. New features can do that, but very often fixing a bug will do it too.

                              There is so much competition in app stores now-a-days, it's hard to break through.

                              As a user, I totally agree with you though. 100%

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                              • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                Dear app developers,
                                I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                Sincerely,
                                Every smartphone user ever

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                                @malwarejake
                                The only app I ever reviewed was the one that declared that it needed to take my contacts with its next update. I read that, did not do the update, left a review saying why I was deleting it, and then did so.

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                                • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                  Dear app developers,
                                  I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                  Sincerely,
                                  Every smartphone user ever

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                                  #29

                                  @malwarejake @robpike I agree, from a phone user’s perspective. But having been on the dev side, this happens because people pay attention to ratings and reviews. People optimize for the thing they’re judged by, so app developers need to get people doing this as long as people keep judging them by the result.

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                                  • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                    Dear app developers,
                                    I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                    Sincerely,
                                    Every smartphone user ever

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                                    #30

                                    @malwarejake
                                    Hmm, they usually dont ask again if you go into the reviews area and then click cancel, orrrr just give a 1 star review due to their review begging

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                                    • kishi@meow.socialK kishi@meow.social

                                      @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake

                                      Yeah, there is that as well, but at that point, they might as well begin counting "tap away or close" as a positive engagement. Not sure if we're at that point, but right now, everything stupid seems plausible.

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                                      @Kishi @mattblaze @jernej__s @malwarejake that is if your review even stands! I’ve had a couple of reviews taken down for “Violation of Apple Media Services Terms and Conditions”. I think devs report bad reviews to avoid their rating from going down.

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                                      • malwarejake@infosec.exchangeM malwarejake@infosec.exchange

                                        Dear app developers,
                                        I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more. Making me click multiple times to dismiss your "nudge" and get back to using the app just makes me want to uninstall it.
                                        Sincerely,
                                        Every smartphone user ever

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                                        #32

                                        @malwarejake
                                        > I have never had the desire to review an app. Prompting me to leave a review doe not make me want to do it any more.

                                        So you are helping the big corpos suffocate small independent app makers. Because reviews are the only way to have a few other people being given a chance to see this app name on their screen. The other way is to shell-out around a half a million dollars for ads and "promotions". App makers beg for reviews, because they are now are unable to outbid scammers.

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                                        • yugthebug@mastodon.socialY yugthebug@mastodon.social

                                          @malwarejake
                                          Hmm, they usually dont ask again if you go into the reviews area and then click cancel, orrrr just give a 1 star review due to their review begging

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                                          #33

                                          @yugthebug @malwarejake
                                          THAT would surely be the biggest risk to any incessant app-review reminders. Counter-productive.
                                          I don't use many apps but I did give #MagicEarth 5*.

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