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You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

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  • numodular@c.imN numodular@c.im

    @collectifission Keep in mind that China is still too reliant for its oil coming via this route. And if The Belt and Road Initiative is to continue the transition to cleaner energy, like #TMSR tech, then China needs to have this source to implement its new 15 year strategy.

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    @numodular yeah, I know. I was just responding to some Greenpeace shitposting 🙂

    But this could create a silver lining: knowing how France went with the Messmer plan as a response to the 1970s oil crisis, this might in fact trigger something similar. It could be the biggest boon for nuclear power in a generation.

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    • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

      You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

      Solar and wind energy

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      @greenpeace or the geotermal energy from the north

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      • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

        @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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        @TomDB @greenpeace

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        • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

          @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I applaud that, and I also wish for that future, but again, that was not my point. We're just not ready from a practical standpoint to switch all the fossil fuels right now to no fossil use. And greenpeace has been stubborn in keeping that narrative to the people like it already is. It's just not. Don't I want less fossil use? Off course I do. But I'm not blind for the reality of the present. No worries on the caps-lock 😉

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          @TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace If we wait till the world ( who really does that mean?) is ready… well women wouldn’t vote, disease would still kill off babies ( soap was a game changer) oceans would all be polluted, we’d have never been capable of any change at all!!! We are watching as our forests die, as our ocean mammals suffer, as our planet screams ENOUGH! Waiting for Ready is just a state of inertia. Sometimes ready is NOW!

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          • bill_halcyon1@mastodon.socialB bill_halcyon1@mastodon.social

            @greenpeace if too many cargo ships are held up the Chinese solar arrays won't get delivered.

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            @greenpeace @bill_halcyon1 trains are great and they exist

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            • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

              @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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              @TomDB @greenpeace Penfold, hush.

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              • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                @TomDB not *all* the oil in the world is in the Gulf. Oil does not need to become irrelevant for their regimes to be, just a 25% in demand would do. Yet here we are @greenpeace

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                • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                  You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                  Solar and wind energy

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                  @greenpeace thank god the international logistics of solar and wind tech are not bound by earthly distribution networks.

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                  • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                    You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                    Solar and wind energy

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                    @greenpeace and nuclear ?

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                    • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                      You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                      Solar and wind energy

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                      @greenpeace@mastodon.social
                      Pretty sure the blades for those wind turbines and the large solar arrays are travelling through the Strait of Hormuz on cargo ships that are no different then oil tankers. 99% of all solar panels come from China, and those blades can be hundreds of feet long.

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                      • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                        @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                        @TomDB @greenpeace It would still be more environmentally (and cost) effective if we relied on solar during the day and just switched to gas during the night

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                        • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                          You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                          Solar and wind energy

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                          @greenpeace Coal doesn't' get caught there either. I 'm surprised the coal people are not funding adverts about that.

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                          • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                            You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                            Solar and wind energy

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                            @greenpeace

                            😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁

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                            • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                              You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                              Solar and wind energy

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                              @greenpeace
                              Nor geothermal or hydroelectric

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                              • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                                You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                                Solar and wind energy

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                                @greenpeace And Nuclear

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                                • greenpeace@mastodon.socialG greenpeace@mastodon.social

                                  You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

                                  Solar and wind energy

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                                  @greenpeace that one got stuck in Suez, have you forgotten? also it can get stuck in Malacca.
                                  just in case you missed what happens around Taiwan

                                  so naive 😉

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                                  • vnkr@mastodon.socialV vnkr@mastodon.social

                                    @TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?

                                    This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.

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                                    @vnkr @TomDB @greenpeace
                                    Batteries supplying up to 9% of demand at night.

                                    We have seen batteries charge with cheap solar, discharge all night, dump remaining energy before 6am and start the solar charging cycle again.

                                    We have had 252,000 household battery systems have been installed with a total storage capacity of 6,280 megawatt-hours, in just 6 months.

                                    Meanwhile there is a ever expanding amount of grid batteries being built or in development. Getting bigger and longer duration.

                                    There is also pumped hydro storage, hydro. Wind etc.

                                    Maybe your government just isn't trying.

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                                    Wind and solar have eaten most of the coal industry's lunch, and batteries are hoeing into its dinner

                                    The latest power quarterly survey from BloombergNEF highlights the rapidly changing shape and nature of Australia's main grid – and the new normal for coal and gas.

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                                    • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                      @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                                      @TomDB @greenpeace Actually we are, and if you did basic research you'll see China have been surpassing all other countries in this regard.

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                                      • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                                        @vnkr @TomDB @greenpeace
                                        Batteries supplying up to 9% of demand at night.

                                        We have seen batteries charge with cheap solar, discharge all night, dump remaining energy before 6am and start the solar charging cycle again.

                                        We have had 252,000 household battery systems have been installed with a total storage capacity of 6,280 megawatt-hours, in just 6 months.

                                        Meanwhile there is a ever expanding amount of grid batteries being built or in development. Getting bigger and longer duration.

                                        There is also pumped hydro storage, hydro. Wind etc.

                                        Maybe your government just isn't trying.

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                                        Wind and solar have eaten most of the coal industry's lunch, and batteries are hoeing into its dinner

                                        The latest power quarterly survey from BloombergNEF highlights the rapidly changing shape and nature of Australia's main grid – and the new normal for coal and gas.

                                        favicon

                                        Renew Economy (reneweconomy.com.au)

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                                        @SuperMoosie @vnkr @greenpeace Tom is just another troll, it's obvious, best to just block and not even bother.

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                                        • tomdb@mastodon-belgium.beT tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be

                                          @greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.

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                                          @TomDB @greenpeace you're out of date https://www.redseaglobal.com/en/w/media-center/worlds-largest-battery-storage-facility-power-the-red-sea-with-clean-energy/

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