You know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.

[tomdb@mastodon-belgium.be]

@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I applaud that, and I also wish for that future, but again, that was not my point. We're just not ready from a practical standpoint to switch all the fossil fuels right now to no fossil use. And greenpeace has been stubborn in keeping that narrative to the people like it already is. It's just not. Don't I want less fossil use? Off course I do. But I'm not blind for the reality of the present. No worries on the caps-lock

[liilliil@mastodon.online]

@greenpeace geothermal & passivhaus

[ravenluni@furry.engineer]

@greenpeace What if the components for solar and wind farms are on ships going through there?

[numodular@c.im]

@collectifission Keep in mind that China is still too reliant for its oil coming via this route. And if The Belt and Road Initiative is to continue the transition to cleaner energy, like #TMSR tech, then China needs to have this source to implement its new 15 year strategy.

[pomubieng@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace I’m sorry solar pannels travel from China to Europe through Suez, and the mining needed to produce them should worry your organization.

[collectifission@greennuclear.online]

@numodular yeah, I know. I was just responding to some Greenpeace shitposting

But this could create a silver lining: knowing how France went with the Messmer plan as a response to the 1970s oil crisis, this might in fact trigger something similar. It could be the biggest boon for nuclear power in a generation.

[lexinova@cyberplace.social]

@greenpeace or the geotermal energy from the north

[lillyherself@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace

[meema1616@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace If we wait till the world ( who really does that mean?) is ready… well women wouldn’t vote, disease would still kill off babies ( soap was a game changer) oceans would all be polluted, we’d have never been capable of any change at all!!! We are watching as our forests die, as our ocean mammals suffer, as our planet screams ENOUGH! Waiting for Ready is just a state of inertia. Sometimes ready is NOW!

[dubiousblur@social.treehouse.systems]

@greenpeace @bill_halcyon1 trains are great and they exist

[andygates@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace Penfold, hush.

[ehproque@neopaquita.es]

@TomDB not *all* the oil in the world is in the Gulf. Oil does not need to become irrelevant for their regimes to be, just a 25% in demand would do. Yet here we are @greenpeace

[kolya@social.cologne]

@greenpeace thank god the international logistics of solar and wind tech are not bound by earthly distribution networks.

[admin@mstdn.feddit.social]

@greenpeace and nuclear ?

[mike@cyberczar.org]

@greenpeace@mastodon.social
Pretty sure the blades for those wind turbines and the large solar arrays are travelling through the Strait of Hormuz on cargo ships that are no different then oil tankers. 99% of all solar panels come from China, and those blades can be hundreds of feet long.

[chestycougth@mastodon.social]

@TomDB @greenpeace It would still be more environmentally (and cost) effective if we relied on solar during the day and just switched to gas during the night

[timo21@mastodon.sdf.org]

@greenpeace Coal doesn't' get caught there either. I 'm surprised the coal people are not funding adverts about that.

[edelruth@mastodon.online]

@greenpeace

[notthatkindofdoctor@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace
Nor geothermal or hydroelectric